Restoring my car - wheel question

[Chris E.]

Ok guys, I have a question about wheels. I have a very early 67 (#100183). I'm restoring the wheels at this point. Here's what I've got.

One wheel with no stamp.
Three "B" wheels
One "DG" wheel.

The TIM/JG says they should either be DG or DC wheels. Yet the expert midyear guy I'm working with says that really early 67s had "B" wheels. He has enough B wheels for me to complete my set of 5.

I'm nervous about that option because the TIM/JG doesn't say ANYTHING about B wheels. So I'm assuming I'd lose my points there in the hands of a more junior judge. (assuming that the B wheel for early car comment is correct)

What should I do?

[Timothy B.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Chris,

I think it's safe to say B wheels for your car and I think no problems for judging.

The DG is probably dated 2-67 and is a spare someone added but is a correct later 67 rally, look close at the unstamped wheel for B stamp at the hole for valve stem. If they are unmounted can you post some pictures of the DG and unstamped wheel showing dates inside the rim, this will tell the whole story.

[Chris E.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Thanks Timothy, I'll have to go shoot some pictures of the wheels.

Not all of them have stamps on the tread part of the wheel that is covered up when the tire is installed. I'll have to look again more closely.

But, it sounds like "B" wheels all the way around is the way to go.

[Peter L.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Chris - For a car of that low a VIN, I'd expect the wheels to have an 8 66 (Aug 1966) manufacture's production code so check inside the rim for the info; but I know all of the B wheels I have seen are 8 66.

Also, I figure by now most 67 judges know about the B wheels and if not, it will be your chance to educate them and don't forget you can always move the call up the ladder.

It will be interesting when you get the manufacture's production code info from the wheels and post them for the wheel code stamps and also for the one without the wheel code stamp.

Pete

[Chris E.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Ok, so here's the summary.

B wheels (3 of them) all have the 66 8 code. Interestingly enough, two of the three have the "66 8" code stamped on one of the surfaces that is more vertical, and the third wheel has it stamped very close to the KH main stamp on the main surface of the wheel.
DG wheel (1 of them) has 15x6 JK 67
Blank wheel (1 of them) has nothing except the Kelsey Hayes stamp and something else next to it that looks like a design

One of the "B" wheels



My only "DG" wheel

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My only blank wheel

[Timothy B.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Chris,

Great pictures, the DG wheel looks like a 1-67 date but the 1 is hard to make out. That would be the first 1-67 DG wheel I have ever seen, usually 2-67 is common date. Here is a pic of the DG I had.

The unstamped wheel is interesting, I would not get rid of it and I would keep looking for the date. Is this wheel welded like the others and is the offset the same and 6" wide just to double check.

[Chris E.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Chris,

Great pictures, the DG wheel looks like a 1-67 date but the 1 is hard to make out. That would be the first 1-67 DG wheel I have ever seen, usually 2-67 is common date. Here is a pic of the DG I had.

The unstamped wheel is interesting, I would not get rid of it and I would keep looking for the date. Is this wheel welded like the others and is the offset the same and 6" wide just to double check.

I'm assuming it does, since they were all on the car (except for one of the B wheels I believe) and the car drove straight and had no issues. I didn't measure the offset or the width. I can do that when I get home.

[Ara G.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Very interesting, as the spare in my 67 Coupe is blank as well.

[Chris E.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Very interesting, as the spare in my 67 Coupe is blank as well.

What VIN are you? Early car? Late car?

[Ara G.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

December car. Have looked and looked and NO stamp. All others on my car are large DC. I was scratching my head for a while on that one. Obviously a prior owner may have swapped it, lost it, destroyed it, etc. But judging by how the prior owner of 19 years took care of the car, and how he saved EVERYTHING of the car's, it seems doubtful

[Peter L.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Chris - I agree with Tim that it looks like a 1 near the 67.

On the blank wheel can you take a picture of the center (front) of the wheel. There were some variations of the GM and KH stamping during the production runs perhaps someone will be able to make a comparison to the wheels they have and provide some date info. Pete

[Peter L.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Ara - On the blank wheel can you take a picture of the center spider (front) of the wheel. There were some variations of the GM and KH stamping during the production runs perhaps someone will be able to make a comparison to the wheels they have and provide some date info. Thanks, Pete

[Ara G.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Hi Peter, I will take a picture one night this week, but last time I tried to upload a picture to the board it didn't upload. Can't remember if it was because it was too big or what. If I have trouble, I can email it to anyone, and see if they can upload it properly.

[Chris E.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

Hi Peter, I will take a picture one night this week, but last time I tried to upload a picture to the board it didn't upload. Can't remember if it was because it was too big or what. If I have trouble, I can email it to anyone, and see if they can upload it properly.

Ara, for uploading pictures, go to photobucket or something and then just link to it.

Peter, I'll shoot more pictures and post them.

[Timothy B.]

Re: Restoring my car - wheel question

I have seen some B wheels where the valve stem hole is drilled through part of the B stamp. It's possible the wheel is B wheel but interesting to hear of one with no stamp. Now we have no stamp, B stamp, DC stamp and DG stamp.

Chris, If there is a date inside that wheel I think it will be by the 15x6 JK if you can find that. Your picture does not show that stamping.