GM Canaada Microfishe info on 67-L-71's

[Tom S.]

Last year I found some long, lost Imported Shipper Copies i've had since the 80's when GM gave them away free. I posted two 67 cars on the C-2 Registry last year and was contacted by 2 enthusiasts who urged me to post all the VIN's on the sheet 7 of which are L-71's out of 19 total. I have a similar sheet for a 68 i owned and it shows 3 VIN's with L-71's out of 25 listed. Lots of other neat cars too.
My question is: Can this info help or hurt the hobby if made public in view of some of the Re-configuring thats going on these days. I've been a watcher of the Forum for years and finally decided to post a good one for a 1st one.

[Mark K.]

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More information, as long as it is factual data, is never a bad thing. Speaking as a 67 L71 owner (and someone WITH their page 7 shipper copy), I say publish them.

[Robert K.]

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Tom,

I also would encourage you to post them. I am a L71 - C2 owner also. I think that any information that is factual will help our hobby and provides us with more insight to our cars.

[Patrick H.]

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I would say to post all the VINs and only the VINs no matter what the configuration.

Have the owners then contact you, and have them confirm the current configuration of the car as well as confirm ownership. In this manner you control the outflow of the information and it goes to the right people.

Patrick

[Wayne M.]

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...My question is: Can this info help or hurt the hobby if made public in view of some of the Re-configuring thats going on these days. ....

Hi Tom -- I believe we've communicated (by mail ?) in the past. I have conflicting opinions on this subject. Out of the 396 1967 model Corvettes shipped new to Canadian dealers, I have the microfiche records of about 267. Also have almost all the VINs of the '63 thru '66, but of course other than colors, shipping dates, dealer numbers, no options info is given on these earlier format records. Have a small number of shipping records from '69 thru 72, with full options data (like the '67s).

Those who have no clue as to where their car was delivered should at least, as a first step, contact GM Canada Vintage, and they will advise if it ever was shipped new up north. This applies to other mid-60's cars not produced in Canada as well, like Camaros, hi-po Chevelles, Corvairs ...

I believe there is no charge for asking, but if it turns out that it WAS shipped from the US to GM Canada, then there's a fee [$50 ?] for an information package specific to that car (ie. not generic).

Now the most important piece of info that they send resembles a window sticker (not aged in tea and baked ), but with less detail than came originally on the car. But they DO give the dealer name (which the microfiche copy doesnt, as all is in code, including option RPO prefixes and suffixes [ie ECL's] and key #s).

I too have posted on the "C2 registry" my current 2 cars, and others that I've owned in the good old days .

I'm reluctant to post more because GM Canada is now in the business, and they own the data [which as you say, they used to hand out free, as long as you had a VIN and a good excuse].

So DB participants, don't call me , unless you already have the GM Vintage package on your Canadian dealer car --- If you get lucky, I'll have the car on my records, and will tell you what else was on the original microfiche (which is their only source for creating the info package).

That said, there's a historical aspect to these records that could provide a statistical snapshot as to ordering profiles for the entire production. There were some truly weird cars ordered back then -- from the bare bones no options to the fully loaded ('67 conv. with 16 options), a '67 BB automatic with J56, etc.

[Tom S.]

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Hi Wayne,
Its been at least 10 years since we talked about this issue when I was trying to find old #10883 which we thought could?? have been an L-89 car. In a recent email with Lance Hill about factory anomolies and such, we're just going to let this one die as this car seems lost forever. I'm inclined to agree with your opinion and Patricks and maybe just post the VIN's on the registry. If anyone wishes further info, it would be gladly provied. Being recently retired is allowing me time to pursue some of these issues and work on my PC skills. Next is how to post pic's.

[Richard S.]

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Tom,

I have posted the VIN numbers of the 3 pages of 1967 GM Canada "monthly imported shipping" data I have have for 43 1967 Corvettes, several times and in several places during the last few years. I support trying to help someone who is searching for original documentation for their Corvette.

Rick.

[Joseph K.]

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I saved Rick's post from Jan 2006 and was going to mention it before he beat me to it. I've always been curious why GM Canada documentation does not seem to be held in higher regard than the traditional stuff that can be "reproduced".

[Roger S.]

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Does anyone know if GM Canada would release the VIN's of all the Corvettes shipped to Canada for a single model year?

Roger

[Richard S.]

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Many years ago, the documents from GM Canada, including the "Monthly Imported Shipping" sheets, were freely given out to anyone who asked. Two names that I remember are George Zapora.... and Frank Agueci, who was the boss of the Vintage Services Group in Oshawa. As I recall, they were both very helpful on the telephone and with the documents they provided, usually a full page of the "monthly Imported Shipping" sheets, which listed about 25 or so Corvettes with VIN's near yours. I don't know if either one is still there today. For those who don't already know, the GM Canada information contained on those "Monthly Imported Shipping" sheets has every bit of information you could ever want on a Corvette, right down to the Key Codes. ( Maybe a good reason not to give it out freely.)

In the early 1990's, GM Canada changed it's attitude towards Vintage GM Owners. They imposed a fee and provided information on only the Corvette VIN you were inquiring about.

I know of several people in Canada and the U.S. who have collections of numerous pages from the GM Canada "Monthly Imported Shipping" registers. Maybe someone besides GM Canada has them all, I don't know....and maybe we could try putting all those nice Corvette people together to correlate all the GM Canada information they have, so that it could be made available to current Corvette Owners who are in need of such original information.

Rick.

[Lorne G.]

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I recently purchased a 67 corvette that came with the GM Canada paperwork from the Vintage department in Oshawa. The paperwork included a letter advising of the original selling dealer,a list of options, and a micro fiche monthly import sheet.

I was delighted to receive all of this valuable information but since it was in the previous owners name, I contacted George Zapora at GM Vintage deptatment and asked if I could receive the same in my name. He agreed and for a $50.00 fee I received my package a couple of weeks later. However I was very disappointed that I did not receive another micro fiche copy so i called him and was told they do not send them out any more because of confidential information like key codes being listed. I do respect this decision.

My micro fiche copy is a bit blurry and some numbers are hard to read. I would have liked a clearer version. If any member has a clear copy for xx5905 I would greatly appreciate it. I could forward my copy as proof of ownership. Since my car was shipped in December 1966, I must have the December Import shipping page.

Lorne

[Wayne M.]

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..... My micro fiche copy is a bit blurry and some numbers are hard to read. I would have liked a clearer version. If any member has a clear copy for xx5905 I would greatly appreciate it. I could forward my copy as proof of ownership. Since my car was shipped in December 1966, I must have the December Import shipping page. Lorne

Lorne --- I've got it . Report date 04 Jan; your car shipped 14th Dec (nice car, BTW -- my favorite color ) My copy is quite clear -- all legible data. Some of my microfiche sheets are fuzzy in areas other than the lines of the car requested, but not this one. The sheet contains 27 Canadian-delivered 1967 Corvettes, starting 055xx and ending 060xx.

Send me a private message with your email, and we can go from there.

[Lorne G.]

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Thank you Wayne,
I will send you a PM this morning. I am new to the sight and need to find out how to PM.

Lorne

[Rick C.]

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After reading the posts on Canadian shipped cars I checked the C2 registry to see if the vin number on my L71 was there which I have owned for a very long time. I was surprised to see that my vin was registered but the first numbers were 194377S mine is 194677S and the rest of the numbers are the same.Could someone be entering vin numbers with faded microfishe copies and guessing on the vin or is it a typo ?

[Tom S.]

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It seems from Lorne that George Zapora hasn't retired yet. A good thing for us. I know from the past, he is burried with these types of requests as the hobby has expanded in recent years. The other reason is so some of the Muscle Car Dealers can advertise this undisputable proof " GM Canda Doc's" to boost their price and image. You will notice more and more of them on windsheilds at car shows and cruise nights each season. It seems collectively several of us probably have all or most of the 67 numbers and will gladly provide any required info if its for a legitimate owner or reason. Mine cover #'s 10596 to 11720