'67 Chassis Detailing kit from Quanta...

[Patrick T.]

This question is about the frame stencil with the build date (or frame pull date). One source tells me to tape the stencil onto the black frame then spray the white ink they give you onto the frame rail. Another source tells me the factory did NOT spray paint the ink but rather used a small paint roller to apply the stencil ink. Which is correct from a judging viewpoint? Thanks, PT

[Terry M.]

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For the early C3s the story is that they were rolled, but that doesn't answer your question.

[Patrick T.]

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For the early C3s the story is that they were rolled, but that doesn't answer your question.

Thanks Terry, I guess that answers part of it but it seems that spraying it on would be rather cumbersome. Of course the '67 Judging Manual under Frame/Chassis doesn't address this either. But that won't stop a judge from dinging me a point or two. PT

[Terry M.]

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And I'm not sure that the early C3 judging manuals address it either. I don't know what the '67 chassis judges look for. I am even a little rusty on the C3s because it has been a very long time since I judged Chassis.

I know of one C3 Chassis judge at Bloomington Gold, who occasionally judges NCRS, who is passionate about the rolled feature. But then that is one judge, and I doubt you will encounter him with your 1967.

Mike Murray can give you a better feel for the 1967 Chassis judging. I'm sure he will add to this thread soon.

[Jim S.]

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This question is about the frame stencil with the build date (or frame pull date). One source tells me to tape the stencil onto the black frame then spray the white ink they give you onto the frame rail. Another source tells me the factory did NOT spray paint the ink but rather used a small paint roller to apply the stencil ink. Which is correct from a judging viewpoint? Thanks, PT

Patric,

I have done a lot of research on this before I posted my question on the stencil, and it seems that the popular consensus is that it was rolled on .

By The way , What date did they give you on the stencil and what is the date on your body trim tag?

Jim

[Jeff A.]

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Patrick,
From everything I've read, a roller was used to apply the paint over the stencil. I tried it on my frame, and despite using a relatively dry roller and two-sided tape to keep the stencil in total contact with the frame, the paint still bled behind the stencil. I ended up using a rattle can then immediately went over the stencil with a totally dry roller for effect. The result was satisfactory, but not great.
Good luck.
Jeff

[Brian M.]

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I rolled mine on with white latex house paint and no issues during judging.

[Patrick T.]

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Patrick,

I have done a lot of research on this before I posted my question on the stencil, and it seems that the popular consensus is that it was rolled on .

By The way , What date did they give you on the stencil and what is the date on your body trim tag?

Jim

Jim, I'm going to order the stencil kit tomorrow. The build date on my Trim Tag is L 06 (July 6th) but that wouldn't be correct for the stencil, since July 6th was the date that the car passed that particular station on the assembly line and those stencils had to be rolled on a lot earlier than that. So shouldn't the date on the stencil read like a month earlier, say June 6th?

Brian, what does your stencil date say when you rolled it on the frame? Thanks, PT

[Mike E.]

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It's pretty clear on unrestored 62's that the stencil was rolled on --there's no indication of paint blowing under the stencil, and you know they didn't carefully tape it down.

[Brian M.]

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Date on my stencil is 12 28 SER# 7471 1st week of Jan 67.

Jim, I'm going to order the stencil kit tomorrow. The build date on my Trim Tag is L 06 (July 6th) but that wouldn't be correct for the stencil, since July 6th was the date that the car passed that particular station on the assembly line and those stencils had to be rolled on a lot earlier than that. So shouldn't the date on the stencil read like a month earlier, say June 6th?

Brian, what does your stencil date say when you rolled it on the frame? Thanks, PT

[Craig O.]

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Jim, I'm going to order the stencil kit tomorrow. The build date on my Trim Tag is L 06 (July 6th) but that wouldn't be correct for the stencil, since July 6th was the date that the car passed that particular station on the assembly line and those stencils had to be rolled on a lot earlier than that. So shouldn't the date on the stencil read like a month earlier, say June 6th?

Brian, what does your stencil date say when you rolled it on the frame? Thanks, PT

I don't think so, June 6 - July 6 seems way to long. 7 to 10 days depending if a weekend is involved is more like it. some theory is it can be as little as 1or 2 days

[Jim S.]

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Jim, I'm going to order the stencil kit tomorrow. The build date on my Trim Tag is L 06 (July 6th) but that wouldn't be correct for the stencil, since July 6th was the date that the car passed that particular station on the assembly line and those stencils had to be rolled on a lot earlier than that. So shouldn't the date on the stencil read like a month earlier, say June 6th?

Brian, what does your stencil date say when you rolled it on the frame? Thanks, PT

Patrick,

I don't know for sure . That is what I was trying to find out in my posting ! If not a definitive date at least a reasonable range .Jury is still out ! But the "within a few days " theory seems to be winning so I still think a Month is too long .

Quanta says two to four weeks!

Jim

[Patrick T.]

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Patrick,

I don't know for sure . That is what I was trying to find out in my posting ! If not a definitive date at least a reasonable range .Jury is still out ! But the "within a few days " theory seems to be winning so I still think a Month is too long .

Quanta says two to four weeks!

Jim

Ok, as long as Quanta will make the stencils two to four weeks in advance of July 6th, that sounds reasonable but what's "reasonable" about anything in this hobby? That's the typical time lapse for most of the other original parts on the car. The carb has a build date of the 3rd week of June and the engine was built on July 2nd. Sounds good to me. Thanks to everyone for their input. I be on a roll now! PT

[Jim S.]

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No Pun Intended , I'm sure !

Patrick,

Let me know what date they assign you, if you would .

Thanks,

Jim

[John H.]

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C1 and C3 frames were made at A.O. Smith-Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and shipped to St. Louis by rail. Midyear frames were made at A.O. Smith-Granite City, Illinois (across the river from St. Louis), and were shipped by truck.

All of those original GM stamping dies are now in Detroit (owned by Neal Porter), and the weld/assembly tooling is in Lake Orion, where he manufactures the frames.