1965 glass

[Grant P.]

I am about to replace wing, side and the windshield glass in my '65 roadster with correct dated glass.
Living in Arizona I would prefer to have all shaded glass, however, I have mixed feedback if clear or shaded glass is best and aceptable for judging.

[James W.]

Re: 1965 glass

Hello Grant,

For Flight Judging, either option AO1 Soft ray Tinted Glass (all windows) for $15.80 or AO2 Soft Ray Tinted Windshield for $10.55 were available for a 1965 Corvette. Both are acceptable in Flight Judging.

I will say that if you choose the tinted windshield it will score less originality points than a non-tinted windshield based on the upper shaded band across the top of the windshield not being what was put in originally in 1965. The upper band on the repro windshield is wider in the middle as compared to an original windshield. Sorry I don't have any good pictures that show the difference between the repro and original.

Hope this helps and welcome the NCRS.


Best Regards,

James West

[Chris E.]

Re: 1965 glass

I have heard this as well, that the tint band isn't the correct shape.

I'd like to see a picture of the difference, if anyone has it.

[Grant P.]

Re: 1965 glass

I have replacement glass now so is it correct to have the windshield, vent and side glass all date coded the same month or should vent be one month, side be another and the windshield another?

[Chris E.]

Re: 1965 glass

Not sure on that point Grant. As long as you are PRIOR to the assembly date of the car, and not more than 6 months (I think is roughly the acceptable range) prior to the assembly of the car, I think you're fine. But that's just me, a lowly little level 3 judge. I'd wait for the high level folks to chime in.

[James W.]

Re: 1965 glass

Grant and Chris,

I've judged cars where I've seen the side glass date codes be the same both left and right and different left and right. Typically the windshields were manufactured one to three months prior to the manufacture date of the car and side glass manufacture date is two to four months prior to the manufacture date of the car. Full credit is typically allowed for any date with in one year of the manufacture of the car. My 1965 coupe has all the original glass in it and and none of the date codes are the same. I'd pick your side glass date codes about one to three months prior to the car's build date.

I've attached pictures of my green '65 coupe and red '65 convertible that both have original windshields. These are the best pictures I have at this time to show you the narrowing in the center of the shaded band. You can hopefully see how it becomes thinner or narrower towards the center of the windshield and wider near each end. The picture on the right shows a repro windshield that is in my '64 convertible. You can see that the shading band at the bottom goes straight across and does not narrow in the center.

I'm sure someone has a better picture to show this, but these are all I have.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

James West

[Lawrence M.]

Re: 1965 glass

Grant, When I had my 69 judged all the repo glass was dated the same month. Although no points were deducted I was told that typically the windshield was a different month than the side glass, and sometimes all 3 pieces had different dates.

Larry

[Gary B.]

1965 glass; no DOT

Grant,

On '65 glass there should be no DOT marking. But the repro glass makers are required to have the DOT for glass made now. I've been told that you can ask them to place the DOT marking close to the edge, where it will be covered by something like molding when installed. I'm not sure this will work for vent glass, but it should work for main window glass.

Gary

[Mike M.]

Re: 1965 glass

If someone would post a pic of an original tinted windshield, the best results would be to shoot from inside the car with a light blank background for the windshield.
Original shading was green with a very subtle/gradual vignette downward, curved ends with a specific location for the ASI.
Repops keep getting better, some have mastered the logo, however, recent examples have a bluish shading with a distinct edge, straighter ends and a varying ASI location.
We have also seen many that are de-laminating as well.
HaND

[James W.]

Re: 1965 glass

Well,

Per Mike's suggestion I did the best with what I had last night in the garage. This was a shot from inside the the car, the second picture is the manufacturing and date code info.

James West

[Mike M.]

Re: 1965 glass

Hello James, well done!
FWIW-the shading on my monitor came out on the blue side.
That is an excellent example of the subtle "Curve" judges expect to see on original cars. Narrow at the center on top and deeper at the coeners.
HaND

[James W.]

Re: 1965 glass

Hello James, well done!
FWIW-the shading on my monitor came out on the blue side.
That is an excellent example of the subtle "Curve" judges expect to see on original cars. Narrow at the center on top and deeper at the coeners.
HaND

Mike,

What you see on your monitor for the windshield shading color is exactly what the camera took. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the white background from the garage door???


Regards,

James

[Jim S.]

Re: 1965 glass

If someone would post a pic of an original tinted windshield, the best results would be to shoot from inside the car with a light blank background for the windshield.
Original shading was green with a very subtle/gradual vignette downward, curved ends with a specific location for the ASI.
Repops keep getting better, some have mastered the logo, however, recent examples have a bluish shading with a distinct edge, straighter ends and a varying ASI location.
We have also seen many that are de-laminating as well.
HaND

James

It probably had something to do with the Dopler Effect.
Were you moving away from or towards the winshield when you snaped it ?

Seriously though , Who makes the best tinted winshield to date ?

Jim