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  • Clem Z.
    Expired
    • January 1, 2006
    • 9427

    interesting read

  • Chuck S.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1992
    • 4668

    #2
    Re: interesting read

    Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
    Yep...Like ole Mark Twain said, there's "lies, damned lies, and statistics".

    I've always wondered why Corvette owners (those on CF in particular) will believe that a small company with limited resources could come close to developing a product superior to those of the major refiners like Exxon Mobil, Chevron, BP et al from whom the snakeoil peddlers buy their blending feedstocks...imagine the disparity that must exist in the laboratory facilities and salaried brainpower. But...you soon learn...don't stand between a man and his snakeoil.

    Duke should be along any minute now.

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    • Karl L.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1977
      • 174

      #3
      Re: interesting read

      What are your thoughts on using asynthetic motor oil in a new rebuilt motor?
      Say a 265cu. V8?
      My son owned a 1993 S-15 Jimmy 4.6L that had Mobil One Synthetic Oil
      installed from delivery date to when he sold it. Had over 160,000 miles
      and still ran great. No oil consumption.
      What about an older motor?
      Ideas?

      Karl.

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      • Dale S.
        Expired
        • November 12, 2007
        • 1224

        #4
        Re: interesting read

        We are back to "Formula 49" and "Slick 50" ads. I personally like "STP" they gave away lots of hats, jackets, banners, oil treatment, gas treatment and tranmission treatment and radiator treatment. Dale

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        • Bob D.
          NCRS Shipping Data Report Manager
          • April 30, 1996
          • 785

          #5
          Re: interesting read

          I agree with Dale. Where's Andy Granatelli when you need him?

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15610

            #6
            Re: interesting read

            Good article! Everyone should read, but you're still going to see posts on the Internet (hopefully not here) asking: Should I use Super Duper Synthetic Whazzo oil (or oil addtive) in my engine. They say it increases mileage 5 percent, increases power 10 percent, and reduces engine wear by 50 percent.

            If I had a nickel for every bull...

            It's all about selecting the best API service category and proper viscosity range for the vintage and use of the car. Then buy on price. A ten year old, given the education that everyone here has received, should be able to make the right choice.

            Duke

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            • Steven B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 30, 1982
              • 3976

              #7
              Re: interesting read

              How about the Castrol ads comparing Castrol to Mobil 1?

              As a one time marketing and product guy---liars, all a bunch of liars!---well, most of them.

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11608

                #8
                Re: interesting read

                Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                Good article! Everyone should read, but you're still going to see posts on the Internet (hopefully not here) asking: Should I use Super Duper Synthetic Whazzo oil (or oil addtive) in my engine. They say it increases mileage 5 percent, increases power 10 percent, and reduces engine wear by 50 percent.

                Duke
                We all know that if the claims were true, OEMs would have adopted the "super secret" motor oils years ago. They spend far more $ on things than oil just to gain incremental bits in mileage.

                Patrick
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Chuck G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1982
                  • 2029

                  #9
                  Re: interesting read

                  Originally posted by Dale Schafer (48165)
                  We are back to "Formula 49" and "Slick 50" ads. I personally like "STP" they gave away lots of hats, jackets, banners, oil treatment, gas treatment and tranmission treatment and radiator treatment. Dale
                  Don't forget the decals and stickers too, Dale.

                  If you put one of those decals on your windshield, you gained 10 HP.

                  Chuck
                  1963 Corvette Conv. 327/360 NCRS Top Flight
                  2006 Corvette Conv. Velocity Yellow NCRS Top Flight
                  1956 Chevy Sedan. 350/4 Speed Hot Rod

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                  • Dale S.
                    Expired
                    • November 12, 2007
                    • 1224

                    #10
                    Re: interesting read

                    Actually, when they (STP) sponsored a drag race, my wife called me at work and said there is a truck in front of the house from STP for the sponsored race. I told her to have them put it in the garage( we had a one car garage). She said they can't, there are 4 pallets of stuff. They linned the length of the driveway with pallets. One pallet 48 cases of STP oil trearment. One pallet STP gas treatment, one mixed pallet of STP radiator and transmission treatment. The fourth pallet was cases of jackets, banners, flags, fence banners and boxes and boxes of STP decals. The reps name was Colonel Haskel Beavers. I'll never forget him. Dale

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                    • Paul B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 30, 1995
                      • 482

                      #11
                      Re: interesting read

                      Originally posted by Karl Litzner (1264)
                      What are your thoughts on using asynthetic motor oil in a new rebuilt motor?
                      Say a 265cu. V8?
                      My son owned a 1993 S-15 Jimmy 4.6L that had Mobil One Synthetic Oil
                      installed from delivery date to when he sold it. Had over 160,000 miles
                      and still ran great. No oil consumption.
                      What about an older motor?
                      Ideas?

                      Karl.

                      ....I had a 1986 Ford 2.9L V6 automatic 2WD Ranger that I drove for 14yrs til the body was practically falling off that had 189,000mi on it changing the oil & filter religiously every 4,000mi using only Castrol GTX 5W-30. My current '99 Ranger just turned 98,000mi using the same oil. Both consumed "no oil whatsoever" in between changes.

                      ...my wife's '99 Lexus RX 300 has 339,000mi on it with whatever the dealer puts in it. Forgot the point of the post.

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                      • Edward C.
                        Expired
                        • March 1, 1985
                        • 125

                        #12
                        Re: interesting read

                        I bought a 1986 Corvette new and used whatever was oil was in it from the plant and whatever the dealer put in. Almost 170,000 miles and never had to add oil between recommended changes and it still ran like new. I think the recommended changes are more important then the brand or type of oil you use except where sythetic is recommended. Most manufactures I believe recomment Mobile 1 when they recommend synthetic. The exception is older engins that may require addatives not in modern oils. Ed

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