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  • Dennis W.
    Expired
    • May 31, 2003
    • 3

    1969 Big Block Pulleys

    I have 2005 ZZ502 Gen VI engine I'm putting in a 1969 Coupe. The pulleys from the 427 or later model with 454 should work. Can someone help me find the correct part numbers used for the crank, water pump, P.S., alternator, and AC. No AIR. My Assembly Manual is vague on the pulleys and belts. Belt info would be great as well. I have purchased some pulleys from Corvette Central and Ecklers but the water pump is really causing me problems.I think this one may need some shims. Any help would be great. Thanks. Dennis 39883
  • Ridge K.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 2006
    • 1018

    #2
    Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

    Originally posted by Dennis Werre (39883)
    I have 2005 ZZ502 Gen VI engine I'm putting in a 1969 Coupe. The pulleys from the 427 or later model with 454 should work. Can someone help me find the correct part numbers used for the crank, water pump, P.S., alternator, and AC. No AIR. My Assembly Manual is vague on the pulleys and belts. Belt info would be great as well. I have purchased some pulleys from Corvette Central and Ecklers but the water pump is really causing me problems.I think this one may need some shims. Any help would be great. Thanks. Dennis 39883
    Dennis, I can't help you with the fan belt info, or the crank, power steering, alternator or AC, but I can tell you about the correct 1969 427 water pump pulley.
    The original was GM part number 3889372, and is a three groove pulley. The part number on originals should be stamped on the front face (hub area), and they are "pricey". In my former parts dealing days, originals brought $200 to $250, or higher.
    The service replacement water pump pulleys were GM part number 3995644. I believe that both have long been discontinued. (p.s. there is a 3889372 listed on eBay right now) (I am not connected to the seller at all).
    This water pump pulley is currently reproduced, but I have been told that it is manufactured in aluminum as a repo, and the originals were steel.
    Maybe this info will get you started in the right direction. Hopefully, one of the many C3 experts will step in, and, the archives will probably have a lot of good info also.
    Good luck, Ridge.
    Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

      Originally posted by Dennis Werre (39883)
      I have 2005 ZZ502 Gen VI engine I'm putting in a 1969 Coupe. The pulleys from the 427 or later model with 454 should work. Can someone help me find the correct part numbers used for the crank, water pump, P.S., alternator, and AC. No AIR. My Assembly Manual is vague on the pulleys and belts. Belt info would be great as well. I have purchased some pulleys from Corvette Central and Ecklers but the water pump is really causing me problems.I think this one may need some shims. Any help would be great. Thanks. Dennis 39883
      Dennis-----

      crank----GM #3863108 OR GM #3921923 (either will work)

      waterpump----GM #3889372 OR GM #3995644 (either will work)

      power steering pump pulley----GM #3878245

      alternator-----3883978

      A/C-----GM #6550750

      Except for the 3921923 and GM #3863108 crank pullies, ALL of the above are GM-discontinued. The 3863108 is available through the GM parts system as a GM reproduction part, though.

      Also, for the above to work you MUST use a SHORT waterpump. No Corvette, big block or small block, ever used a 69+ "long" style waterpump.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Dennis W.
        Expired
        • May 31, 2003
        • 3

        #4
        Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

        Was there an idler pulley on these engines?

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        • Dennis W.
          Expired
          • May 31, 2003
          • 3

          #5
          Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

          Thanks for the info. Was there an idler pulley on these engines?

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

            Originally posted by Dennis Werre (39883)
            Thanks for the info. Was there an idler pulley on these engines?
            Dennis-----


            Yes, an idler pulley was used for 68-74 Corvettes with big block and C-60. For 1969 the assembly was GM #3952332. It's long-since GM-discontinued but available in reproduction.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Rob M.
              NCRS IT Developer
              • January 1, 2004
              • 12695

              #7
              Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

              Depends what options you had on your car. Mine hasn't got AIR but has power steering and does have an idler pulley (rear groove).

              regards,
              Rob.
              Rob.

              NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
              NCRS Software Developer
              C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43193

                #8
                Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

                Originally posted by Rob Musquetier (41157)
                Depends what options you had on your car. Mine hasn't got AIR but has power steering and does have an idler pulley (rear groove).

                regards,
                Rob.
                Rob------


                AIR was not an option for 1969. It was supplied on all cars. As far as the idler pulley goes, the triggering factors were C-60 and L-36 or L-68. If the car had those, it got the idler pulley regardless of other options or lack thereof.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Erik S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 1, 2005
                  • 407

                  #9
                  Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

                  Joe - does this mean that L71 does not necessarily have such a pully?

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

                    Originally posted by Erik Stroeve (43069)
                    Joe - does this mean that L71 does not necessarily have such a pully?
                    Erik-----


                    The L-71 was not available with C-60. So, with no C-60 one of the two "triggering" requirements could not be met. Therefore, no L-71 was equipped with the idler pulley assembly.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Jeff G.
                      Expired
                      • October 25, 2006
                      • 187

                      #11
                      Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

                      FYI - In lieu of an idler pulley, the 69 configuration used a tensioner on the water pump belt for the C60. The 69 AIM is wrong, I think the config. diagram was a carry over from 68.

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43193

                        #12
                        Re: 1969 Big Block Pulleys

                        Originally posted by Jeff Groover (46451)
                        FYI - In lieu of an idler pulley, the 69 configuration used a tensioner on the water pump belt for the C60. The 69 AIM is wrong, I think the config. diagram was a carry over from 68.

                        Jeff-----


                        The 1968 model year piece was much different than the 69-74 which is more of a tensioner than a pulley. However, GM referred to both as a BELT IDLER PULLEY.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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