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  • Craig L.
    Expired
    • December 1, 1997
    • 19

    57 judging help again

    Sorry to keep asking questions but this site has been a great source of information.

    Question 1. The spring return brackets on my duel carbs are after market and appear to be stainless. I was told that they should be steel. Where can I get some steel ones, as Paragon and CC are both non magnetic metal.

    Question 2. Regarding the wiring harness, what do the judges mean when they say I do not have tennet connectors?

    Question 3. Air cleaner wingnuts should be plated, but does that mean chrome or cad?

    Thanks again everyone for your help.
  • Ed H.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1999
    • 626

    #2
    Re: 57 judging help again

    Craig

    I did a frame up and I judge them at regionals. The tennant connectors refer to the plastic they are made from. The color is not white but have a biege (very light) color. They are used to connect the front head and parking light wires. The are held in place with metal clips (not painted) mounted on the front inner fender pans. Do you have Noland Adams restoration book. If not get one it is great for these questions, with pictures.

    As far as the wing nuts are concerned, if you use CC or paragon 1963 carb wing nuts, you should not have a problem.

    As far as the spring holding unit on the back carb I did not know this was judged except for the configuration. Good luck

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    • Craig L.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1997
      • 19

      #3
      Re: 57 judging help again

      Thanks Ed and hope to see you again in San Jose. Just to clarify what you said and ask is there a source for the tennet connectors and does this include the temp sending unit connector? Were the metal clips that hold the connectors on the inner fender well not painted? This would mean that they were added when the wiring was added.

      The spring return bracket is the one that is mounted on the intake manifold bolts. One forward and one in the mid area. There are two of them.(one for each carb) The pictures do not do any good as the judge said that they must be metal and not stainless.

      Thanks again and the time spent at previous meets with you while going over my car has always been a pleasure.

      Craig

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      • Ed H.
        Very Frequent User
        • November 1, 1999
        • 626

        #4
        Re: 57 judging help again

        Craig,

        I used Lectric Limited complete wiring kit. The plastic units were included in the kit. Never had a deduct on the wiring. The metal clips were original, and were not painted. Good luck

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        • Barry H.
          Very Frequent User
          • April 30, 1976
          • 213

          #5
          Re: 57 judging help again

          ED, On the 57, are you talking about the wiring mounting clips on the inner fenders being bare? I always thought they were installed before blackout, thus would be painted. Thanks. Barry Holmes #940

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          • David S.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1982
            • 310

            #6
            Re: 57 judging help again

            Hi John,
            I am attaching a picture from my 57 bowtie car that should help answer your question. If you need any more pictures please let me know
            Dave
            Attached Files

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            • Craig L.
              Expired
              • December 1, 1997
              • 19

              #7
              Re: 57 judging help again

              Thanks for the picture, Dave, they look to be painted here. Anyone else have any idea's.

              Also what about the carb linkage return brackets. Is stainless ok or should they be magnetic steel? I need two originals if anyone has any.

              Craig

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              • David S.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1982
                • 310

                #8
                Re: 57 judging help again

                Graig if you are planning on having your car judged I would stay away from stainless.
                Dave

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                • Craig L.
                  Expired
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 19

                  #9
                  Re: 57 judging help again

                  Thanks Dave, I agree but I just can't find any that are steel.( originals) The CC and Paragon ones are non metalic. If anyone has a couple for sale, please let me know.

                  Craig

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                  • Bruce B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 1996
                    • 2930

                    #10
                    Re: 57 judging help again

                    Craig:
                    The "tennet" connectors you refer to are actually Tenite Plastic which is a line of cellulosic plastic made by the Eastman Corporation.
                    It is a very early "plastic" which has mant uses and comes in numerous colors. It is a very versitile material.
                    Good luck with your 57, I am just finishing mine.
                    Bruce B

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                    • Steven B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1982
                      • 3976

                      #11
                      Re: 57 judging help again

                      Originally posted by Craig Landon (29913)
                      Thanks Dave, I agree but I just can't find any that are steel.( originals) The CC and Paragon ones are non metalic. If anyone has a couple for sale, please let me know.

                      Craig
                      Craig, try:

                      Chuck Smith, 760-749-5755

                      Bob Kunz, 314-845-2566

                      Grossmuelers (don't have www. or tel. # with me,can Google him)

                      Steve

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                      • Gary C.
                        Administrator
                        • October 1, 1982
                        • 17549

                        #12
                        Re: 57 judging help again

                        Craig, try the NCRS Carb Technical person - Gary Hodges fuelishgary@live.com 503-588-3883 He'll have them or let you know where to get them. Gary....
                        NCRS Texas Chapter
                        https://www.ncrstexas.org/

                        https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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                        • Barry H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • April 30, 1976
                          • 213

                          #13
                          Re: 57 judging help again

                          Craig, Most people clean & install their old tenite connectors, (from the old harness), on the new repro wiring harness.
                          The spring brackets were plain steel, cadmium plated, thus would be magnetic. Repro's are made in stainless steel the avoid the plating process.
                          The 2x4 springs were spring steel, painted silver. Some repros are stainless steel. Also there is a very good description of the installation of the wiring mounting clips in the body assy area on page 143 of Noland Adams's Tech Restoration book Vol#1 Be sure to read all the follow-up info in the section. Very good pic of uninstalled front end, with clips installed, (standing up on end) waiting to be bonded to cowl assy.
                          Good luck with your restoration. (It's all about the details)
                          Barry Holmes #940

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                          • Craig L.
                            Expired
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 19

                            #14
                            Re: 57 judging help again

                            Thanks Gary, I did contact him and he did have them. Thanks everyone for your help.

                            Craig

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