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  • Jack P.
    Expired
    • March 19, 2009
    • 1135

    Glove Box Keys

    A note of thanks to Pete Lindahl. I had lost my original keys for ignition and doors and glove box. Pete had replacements and his service was prompt and the keys worked perfectly.

    What we discovered in the process. My ignition key also opened my glove box. Pete mentioned that only twice has he seen this. I am curious if any of you have the same situation where the ignition key opens your glove box. My locks are original.

    I have inserted his email to me on how this works:

    Jack - This is great. You're on your way to being a locksmith ( I can't used capital letters because I'm not a Locksmith). I have no reason to think the GB lock cylinder is not the original because it has the KEY # stamped on it and because as long as the GB lock is open and they can get into the GB most folks don't replace the GB lock unless it's locked and they want to get into it and they don't have, i.e., lost, the key
    Ign/Door - KEY # xx223 = KEY CODExxx353
    GB/ST - KEY #xx322 = KEY CODE xxx353
    OK, Jack you are going to find this very interesting. If you recall, you indicated that the ignition/door key operated the glove box lock and I asked again if that was so and you confirmed. Well if you look at the KEY CODEs (these are the 6 depth cuts on the key) for the 2 keys (and the tumblers of the associated locks) the last 4 numbers x353, i.e the 4 depth cuts from the point of the key shaft, are identical and since the GB lock cylinder only uses these 4 key cuts because it only has 4 tumblers, both keys will work the GB lock; but the GB key will not work the ignition or doors because these locks have 6 tumblers so all 6 depth cuts would have to be identical. i.e., the same KEY CODE, which of course would mean the keys would have the same KEY # but the ignition/door key would have the octagon head and the GB/ST key would have the round head.
    This is interesting and fun.

    I wonder if the factory by accident used a glove box lock that matched my ignition key. Let us know if your key works on both.

    Jack
  • Jack C.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 30, 1992
    • 1090

    #2
    Re: Glove Box Keys

    I also have used Pete's services, "Top FLight" and a fraction of the cost of others.
    Jack Corso
    1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
    Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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    • Terry M.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • September 30, 1980
      • 15573

      #3
      Re: Glove Box Keys

      Jack P -- are you sure you want to trust everyone on the Internet with your key codes?

      Maybe I am paranoid, but I wouldn't
      Terry

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      • Jack P.
        Expired
        • March 19, 2009
        • 1135

        #4
        Re: Glove Box Keys

        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
        Jack P -- are you sure you want to trust everyone on the Internet with your key codes?

        Maybe I am paranoid, but I wouldn't
        I understand your concern and thanks, It was very easy to steal a car back in the 60' and 70's.

        But I did put some xx in just in case . It is a convert, so all you have to do is cut top to get in. That is why we all have cut off switches (I hope) , I have two. to keep car from starting. I parked the car on the streets of NYC , for years in the 70's. Still have the car, since 1969

        Jack

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        • Edward B.
          Very Frequent User
          • January 1, 1988
          • 537

          #5
          Re: Glove Box Keys

          Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
          Jack P -- are you sure you want to trust everyone on the Internet with your key codes?

          Maybe I am paranoid, but I wouldn't

          In the mid/late '60s I had a ring of about 25 keys that would work with just about every GM lock it was ever tried on. Those cars were/are not difficult to open and start.

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: Glove Box Keys

            The only car I ever had stolen they broke a vent window and peeled back the column. No key needed.

            I know it was real easy in the old days. And any thief worth his salt will get the car regardless of what we do. I guess I just don't trust the Internet at all.
            Terry

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            • Randy W.
              Expired
              • October 23, 2007
              • 24

              #7
              Re: Glove Box Keys

              Can anyone give me contact info to Pete Lindahl?
              Thanks
              Randy

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              • Steve M.
                Frequent User
                • October 22, 2006
                • 88

                #8
                Re: Glove Box Keys

                pclindahl@comcast.net

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                • Jack P.
                  Expired
                  • March 19, 2009
                  • 1135

                  #9
                  Re: Glove Box Keys

                  Originally posted by Randy Ward (48029)
                  Can anyone give me contact info to Pete Lindahl?
                  Thanks
                  Randy
                  Hi Randy,

                  Pete is a member of this forum. You can look him up at Peter Lindahl (6598)

                  Does great work and is very quick.

                  Jack

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                  • Randy W.
                    Expired
                    • October 23, 2007
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Re: Glove Box Keys

                    Thanks for the connection!
                    Rand

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: Glove Box Keys

                      Originally posted by Jack Panzica (50215)
                      I wonder if the factory by accident used a glove box lock that matched my ignition key. Let us know if your key works on both.

                      Jack
                      Jack -

                      St. Louis didn't select the keys - the keys and all five lock cylinders came in a "lock unit" from Rochester Products, in a sealed bag; two hex keys and the ignition and both door lock cylinders in one side of the separable bag, and the other side of the bag had the round keys and the glove box and spare tire lock cylinders. The fact that the cut codes on both were the same is a coincidence; probably didn't happen very often.

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                      • Dick W.
                        Former NCRS Director Region IV
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 10483

                        #12
                        Re: Glove Box Keys

                        Originally posted by Edward Boyd (12363)
                        In the mid/late '60s I had a ring of about 25 keys that would work with just about every GM lock it was ever tried on. Those cars were/are not difficult to open and start.
                        Ed, I think that there were actually 73 keys that would open any GM for many years. Once upon I had that set, but they got "borrowed"
                        Dick Whittington

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