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  • Ian G.
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    • September 3, 2007
    • 1114

    C1 Tierod end part numbers?

    Can someone with an early parts book, or innate knowledge advise of the correct part number for C1 LH & RH tierod ends, specifically for a 59?
  • Christopher R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1975
    • 1599

    #2
    Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

    My 1973 Chevrolet Corvette parts book (P&A 30B) lists, in Group No. 6.233, END ASSY., Tie Rod:

    53-62 Corvette, 3737595, left (4 1/2" long) 9/16"-18 L.H. thd.) (forged 3691955)

    53-62 Corvette, 3737596, right (daub of yellow paint) (forged 3691956)

    These parts could have changed from the time your car was built to 1973 when the catalog was issued. But those parts listed will work, even if they look different.

    Replacements have the zerk fitting in the wrong place. I believe the originals had the grease fittings on the bottom. The replacements have the fittings on the side. Or, vice-versa. Last time I looked, Kanter had the best price on these. All the usual Corvette parts suppliers carry them.

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    • Ridge K.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1018

      #3
      Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

      Originally posted by Ian Gaston (47813)
      Can someone with an early parts book, or innate knowledge advise of the correct part number for C1 LH & RH tierod ends, specifically for a 59?
      Hello Ian! Great to meet you at the San Jose convention.

      I would assume you mean the tie rod "socket" end.
      According to my December 1983 GM Chevrolet parts manual, the correct part numbers under group 6.233 for a 1953 to 1962 Corvette Rod-Socket, Tie Rod is:
      461902 RH (right hand) with the note: (daub of yellow paint) (forged 3691956)
      461903 LH (left hand) with the note: (4 1/2 long) (9/16-18 LH THD) (forged 3691955).

      Sorry, but I do not have one to photograph for you.
      Hope this is helpful. Ridge
      Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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      • Steven N.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 30, 2002
        • 214

        #4
        Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

        Hey Ian, Great to meet you in San Jose. ! The zirc's should exit on the side, not the bottom. Also when installed, the zircs should be on oposite side on each tie rod adjusting sleeve. Usually the tie rod is marked LH & RH. When ordering make sure to tell them you wnat the bottom exit zircs, they have the tendency to send incorrect one's if you don' t mention that.

        Steven J........

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        • Ian G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 3, 2007
          • 1114

          #5
          Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

          zerks on the side, I believe. Thanks for the info!

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          • Ian G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 3, 2007
            • 1114

            #6
            Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

            Good to meet you guys as well! Thanks for the info!

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

              Originally posted by Ian Gaston (47813)
              Can someone with an early parts book, or innate knowledge advise of the correct part number for C1 LH & RH tierod ends, specifically for a 59?
              Ian-----


              The original part numbers were as Chris posted----GM #3737595, rh, and GM #3737596, lh. These pieces carried forging numbers 3691956 and 3691955, respectively. These numbers may be difficult or impossible to discern on original parts, though.

              In January, 1982 the GM #3737595 was discontinued and replaced by GM #461902. In July, 1976 the GM #3737596 was discontinued and replaced by GM #461903. While GMSPO indicates that these replacement pieces carried the same forging numbers as the originals, I don't think they did. I think that is an "anachronism" in the P&A catalogs. However, I'm not certain about this; it's possible they did carry the original forging numbers.

              In any event, GM #461902 was discontinued without supercession in February, 1993. However, GM #461903 was discontinued in October, 1989 and replaced by GM #10159480. The latter piece was discontinued without supercession in April, 1999.

              And, that's it as far as the GM parts are concerned.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Tom P.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1980
                • 1814

                #8
                Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                I've noticed from the above comments, there is some confusion regarding placement and spelling of the grease fittings (zerks).
                The CORRECT placement of the grease fittings is on the SIDE, NOT the bottom.
                BOTH styles of replacement tierod ends are available (bottom and side fittings). Just check with the vendors to see which style they sell. Buy the ones with the side fitting and leave the ones with bottom fittings for the 49-54 Pass car guys.
                The replacement (I won't go so far as to call them repos) tierod ends LOOK more correct with the side fitting. If you get tierod ends with the bottom fitting, it is immediately obvious to those of us who notice those kinds of things. Also, depending on where, and the type of driving you do, it is not uncommon to high-center on something in your driving path and break off the bottom style grease zerk!

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                • Ian G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 3, 2007
                  • 1114

                  #9
                  Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                  Can anyone with original tie rod ends advise if they notice a stamping of "173-L" or "173-R" on the bottoms of them on the round plate underneath the bolt/socket? I've removed mine and cleaned them up and see three like that, and one with no stamping and looks slightly different... Also, if you notice the forging numbers mentioned by Ridge and Joe and where that might be (if visible at all?). I assume mine are later replacements, but do have side zerks and seem to be sound.

                  thank you all for the info and help!

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                  • Ian G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 3, 2007
                    • 1114

                    #10
                    Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                    I think the ones I have may be these: McQuay-Norris, part #ES173R & part #ES173L
                    13456.jpg

                    I'm posting pics of what I believe are original ones I saw on ebay. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

                    end1.jpgend2.jpg

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                    • Ian G.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 3, 2007
                      • 1114

                      #11
                      Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                      posting some additional pics of tie rod ends purported to be the GM service replacements 461902 & 461903. They are definitely not the same casting.
                      Note the built up zerk fitting shoulders.

                      469102-469103-1.jpg469102-469103-2.jpg

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                      • Dale S.
                        Expired
                        • November 12, 2007
                        • 1224

                        #12
                        Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                        Those are some OLD Mc Quay Norris boxes. I think I see a printing on the box fpr Mc Quay Piston rings. I had 2, eight foot hour glass signs one on either side of the door of my parts store. They were blue and white. They were put up in 1957 or 1958. It hour glasses advertised the long life of Mcqquay piston rings. After we sold to Carquest they tore them down (we did not know it) and threw them away. I have never bought a Carquest part since then. Dale Ps They also threw away my Wagner Lookeed brake books back to the early 1900. l

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                        • Bob J.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1977
                          • 713

                          #13
                          Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                          Originally posted by Ian Gaston (47813)
                          Can anyone with original tie rod ends advise if they notice a stamping of "173-L" or "173-R" on the bottoms of them on the round plate underneath the bolt/socket? I've removed mine and cleaned them up and see three like that, and one with no stamping and looks slightly different... Also, if you notice the forging numbers mentioned by Ridge and Joe and where that might be (if visible at all?). I assume mine are later replacements, but do have side zerks and seem to be sound.

                          thank you all for the info and help!
                          Ian, if you're going the ebay route don't forget to search Chevy/Chevrolet since those tie rods also fit 1939-54 Chevys. Bob

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                          • Ian G.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • September 3, 2007
                            • 1114

                            #14
                            Re: C1 Tierod end part numbers?

                            That's a cool anecdote Dale
                            Thanks Bob. I've heard that before and its good info to hear twice.
                            I will be keeping an eye out.

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