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  • Dan H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1977
    • 1365

    64 clock hands

    Hi, could someone provide a picture of the difference between an early 63 clock hour hand and the later hour hand for 63/64? The JG says the early has 1/4 inch bend at tip of hour hand while later used an 1/8 inch. Got dinged for a point at San Jose for having a 'long' hand, but it looks short to me. Any pictures will be helpful and informative for others! Thanks
    Dan
    1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
    Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!
  • Dan H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1977
    • 1365

    #2
    Re: 64 clock hands

    Hi all, found a good picture of a 64 clock on page 214 of Noland's book, shows the hour hand just touching the bottom of the face numeral. Pictures of 63 clocks appear to over lap the numeral, but hard to tell from the photos in the book. My clock hands appear like Noland's book photo, just touching the bottom of the numeral. Not sure what the Judges were using as there criteria for deduction, or if the JG description of 1/8 and 1/4 is accurate for the tip of the hour hand bend may be off. Would really appreciate a good photo of an original 64 clock so if this comes up again someone else can have good information in hand. Will forward any info to TL for his approval when we have solid info. Are there different clock restorations being performed out there?
    Dan
    1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
    Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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    • Michael H.
      Expired
      • January 29, 2008
      • 7477

      #3
      Re: 64 clock hands

      Originally posted by Dan Holstein (1440)
      Hi, could someone provide a picture of the difference between an early 63 clock hour hand
      Dan,

      Here's a shot of a very early 63 clock. Not a very good quality pic. Pic was taken in early 1963.

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      • Dan H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1977
        • 1365

        #4
        Re: 64 clock hands

        Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
        Dan,

        Here's a shot of a very early 63 clock. Not a very good quality pic. Pic was taken in early 1963.
        Thanks Michael, that is about twice as long as my 64 hand which just touches the bottom of the numeral. I think the 1/8 inch and 1/4 inch in the JG may need some fine tunig or at least some nice comparison pictures for the Judges to use.
        Dan
        1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
        Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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        • Alan D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 1, 2005
          • 2027

          #5
          Re: 64 clock hands

          And here's a clock from a Mar 64 car

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          • Dan H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1977
            • 1365

            #6
            Re: 64 clock hands

            Thanks Michael and Alan, when you look straight at the 64 clock it is just touching the numeral edge, the 63 one goes way over the numeral. In fairness to the Judges they were taking the JG litterally, which made them suspect the 64 clock had the long 1/4 inch needle instead of the short later needle. I think the JG should include a picture so a visual can be used instead of measurements. The needles are closer to 1/4 for 64 and 1/2 for 63 (early).
            Dan
            1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
            Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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            • Harry S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 2002
              • 5258

              #7
              Re: 64 clock hands

              A January dated 63 clock.



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              • Michael H.
                Expired
                • January 29, 2008
                • 7477

                #8
                Re: 64 clock hands

                Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
                A January dated 63 clock.
                I wonder if anyone ever figured out when this change occured for the 63's? Mid production? Early?

                Harry, have you ever noticed that the speaker screen around the defroster opening is warped/bent up in the center on most/all 63's? It looks bent on your car too.

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                • Harry S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5258

                  #9
                  Re: 64 clock hands

                  Michael, yes it's bent as you noticed. I don't like it, but that's the way it will stay.

                  Cheers


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                  • Michael H.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2008
                    • 7477

                    #10
                    Re: 64 clock hands

                    Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
                    Michael, yes it's bent as you noticed. I don't like it, but that's the way it will stay.

                    Cheers
                    Yup, it's correct/original.

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                    • Dan H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 31, 1977
                      • 1365

                      #11
                      Re: 64 clock hands

                      Michael, was just speaking with my clock restorer friend and he had notes on a couple Oct 62 dated 63 clocks that had a dull, permanent texture silver color in the metal instead of the aluminum paint on the clock bezel, still had the chrome outer lip. Ever seen this before?
                      Dan
                      1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
                      Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #12
                        Re: 64 clock hands

                        Originally posted by Dan Holstein (1440)
                        Michael, was just speaking with my clock restorer friend and he had notes on a couple Oct 62 dated 63 clocks that had a dull, permanent texture silver color in the metal instead of the aluminum paint on the clock bezel, still had the chrome outer lip. Ever seen this before?
                        Dan
                        Dan.

                        I've never noticed that but it's certainly possible. I once owned 63 #170 and I don't remember anything different about the bezel.

                        A good friend here has #630, an FI conv that he bought new in late 62. I'll take a look at his clock.

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