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  • John C.
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    • September 30, 2001
    • 130

    C1 door panel help

    I'm trying to remove the inside door panel,but can not seem to remove the little door lock handle, do you just pry it off?
  • David L.
    Expired
    • December 1, 1981
    • 116

    #2
    Re: C1 door panel help

    John,

    On the chrome locking lever where it slides onto the shaft that goes into the door, you will find a retainer clip that can be spread and the lever is released. At least that's how it works on my '58.

    David

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    • Steven B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 1982
      • 3976

      #3
      Re: C1 door panel help

      John, correct as Dave says. There is an inexpensive tool made to remove these clips from the handle, door handle and door lock handle. I have seen them in auto parts stores and I believe J C Whitney has them, also. I have used a screw driver beofre but be very careful. I recommend the tool versus the screw driver.

      Steve

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      • Ken K.
        Expired
        • May 31, 1999
        • 235

        #4
        Re: C1 door panel help

        I heard that a small pink type shop towel can also work well. Try to work the towel behind the knob and have the towel snag on the little clip. By pulling the towel out, (The correct way) the clip will come with the towel.
        I think you need to know the way the clip was inslalled. Try to see the clip and what way it must be pull out.

        Good Luck

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        • Stewart A.
          Expired
          • April 16, 2008
          • 1035

          #5
          Re: C1 door panel help

          I just removed both of my jesus clips in 3 seconds by using a 90 degree pick. You know the little ones that come in a packet of 3 with little screw driver handles and very sharp at the ends. I can't recall what there called orger? The window winder handle also comes off just as easy. I think they cost less than $10 for a pack and they are very handy a must for the w/shop. Stewy

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          • Sandra H.
            Expired
            • August 29, 2007
            • 262

            #6
            Re: C1 door panel help

            Anyone have any experience removing the little power window panel?
            Are the same kind of retaining clips used on it? Or can I just pop it off, then remove the wiring? Seems like there must be something holding it in place.

            Sandy

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            • Paul B.
              Very Frequent User
              • January 31, 2007
              • 310

              #7
              Re: C1 door panel help

              Originally posted by Sandra Haynes (47759)
              Anyone have any experience removing the little power window panel?
              Are the same kind of retaining clips used on it? Or can I just pop it off, then remove the wiring? Seems like there must be something holding it in place.

              Sandy
              On my '62, I leave the window switch on the panel for removal. There is an electrical connector on the back of the switch, I just gently pry it off the switch (old Bakelite or plastic) once the panel is off, and all is good.

              Paul

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              • Sandra H.
                Expired
                • August 29, 2007
                • 262

                #8
                Re: C1 door panel help

                Thanks for the info Paul......that sounds easy enough.
                I will have to replace the entire interior in my '62......noticed that new door panels don't have cutouts for things like this.
                I'm guessing you just carefully cut your own using old panel for template?

                Another question....it's a dumb one, but I need to know. What do the little keeper rings mentioned in above posts look like? And what does the tool for removal look like? Anyone that could post pictures?
                That stuff may be in the 'mystery tools' section of my car things.

                Thanks for the help,
                Sandy

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                • Paul B.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 31, 2007
                  • 310

                  #9
                  Re: C1 door panel help

                  Hi Sandy,
                  Check the back of your new panel, there might be a an outline/punchout of where the switch should be placed. The alternative, as you mentioned, is to use your old panel as a template.
                  The clip for the lock lever is just a C clip, the open end faces the lever side. I just press on the door panel, and use a dental tool with a hook on it to snag the C clip and remove.
                  I think I have a loose one kicking around, I'll try to take a snap for you this aft.

                  Paul

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                  • Sandra H.
                    Expired
                    • August 29, 2007
                    • 262

                    #10
                    Re: C1 door panel help

                    Thank you for the answer Paul.

                    The photo below has a few items I'm not sure about......one on the far left says "for external retaining rings" but it looks too big from the description of what all of you are using to remove the retainers. There must be a difference between internal rings and external ones, or this tool wouldn't differentiate.

                    If none of these tools are right, I do have some angled picks and I think some dental tools.

                    I'm guessing some of these retainers are just open rings..c rings I think you mentioned, that just pull off. Do some of them have little loops on the open ends?

                    And how do you get them back on?

                    Any enlightenment is really appreciated.
                    Sandy
                    Attached Files

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                    • Steven B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1982
                      • 3976

                      #11
                      Re: C1 door panel help

                      Originally posted by Sandra Haynes (47759)
                      Thank you for the answer Paul.

                      The photo below has a few items I'm not sure about......one on the far left says "for external retaining rings" but it looks too big from the description of what all of you are using to remove the retainers. There must be a difference between internal rings and external ones, or this tool wouldn't differentiate.

                      If none of these tools are right, I do have some angled picks and I think some dental tools.

                      I'm guessing some of these retainers are just open rings..c rings I think you mentioned, that just pull off. Do some of them have little loops on the open ends?

                      And how do you get them back on?

                      Any enlightenment is really appreciated.
                      Sandy

                      Sandy, I will try to find a picture of the removal/install tool. Mine looks similiar to a sheet metal tuning fork with steps for various size clips. It is "U" shaped with a "handle" on the bottom of the"U". Inside the "U" is where the steps are.

                      Steve

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                      • Steven B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1982
                        • 3976

                        #12
                        Re: C1 door panel help

                        Here is one from Northern Tools;


























                        Performance Tool Door Handle and Window Crank Clip Tool, Model#

                        Performance Tool Door Handle and Window Crank Clip Tool, Model#

                        Item# 9094241

                        Only $4.99



                        The ideal tool for removing and installing door handle and window crank retainer clips on many popular vehicles.







                        Item# 9094241 Only $4.99

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                        • Sandra H.
                          Expired
                          • August 29, 2007
                          • 262

                          #13
                          Re: C1 door panel help

                          Hi Steve,

                          Thanks for posting the tool picture.......I have not run across one of those in my car stuff, so assuming I don't have it.

                          The first time someone said you can never have enough tools, I laughed.
                          It sounded like such a 'guy' thing.
                          Not laughing anymore, just ordering more tools.

                          Best, Sandy

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                          • Paul B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • January 31, 2007
                            • 310

                            #14
                            Re: C1 door panel help

                            Hi Sandy,
                            Sorry for the delay, but here are a couple of pictures with an old lock lever that I found.
                            On the first you can see where the C spring clip fits the the channel on the back (sorry no clip to show you).
                            On the second, you can see the dental tool that I use to remove the clip. I'd bet that the correct tools that the others have shown would work better, but the hook is what I have.



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                            • Sandra H.
                              Expired
                              • August 29, 2007
                              • 262

                              #15
                              Re: C1 door panel help

                              Hi Paul,
                              Thanks for the pictures......I found dental tools in my old silversmithing stuff, so I can at least remove the clips.

                              How did you put them back on? Just kind of slide clip behind handle and then push with tool?

                              At least I know how to get it apart.......a ways off though, haven't finished sanding yet.

                              Door panels will be easy I think compared to the rest of the interior....but don't want to look too far ahead. It gets a little scary when I think about the whole scope of this project.
                              But not scary enough to bail on it.
                              (Only because you guys are the backup squad.)

                              Sandy

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