For Sale Posts?

[Gary C.]

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Ask your Director and they should tell you have they voted. Gary....

[Darwin O.]

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Then why not stick with using the Corvette Forum and let the NCRS site remain in line with it's true charter? Frankly, I find the driveline adds useless because the asking prices are usually way out of line with market value.

Let's not forget that this site is maintained mostly by people who VOLUNTEER their time. Another forum is another forum to maintain, monitor, backup, etc.

The impetus to have a 'for sale' section on the NCRS board is that, the folks looking for NCRS appropriate parts (and cars) would then be able to do one-stop-shopping instead of having to check multiple sources - and give sellers the best opportunity to sell their stuff to the right people. It would also probably bring the Driveline prices in line with what the rest of the market will bear - thus making the Driveline ads less useless.

If we didn't have a "Test Forum" and a "Discussion Board Help" forum, then perhaps the resources to maintain them could be used to run a "For Sale" forum.

I'm just sayin'...

Cheers,
Darwin.

[Mark D.]

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Gary,

Did you delete my earlier post? Are honest, pointed questions not allowed? Gary, do you believe open and transparent voting by the BOD is in the best interest of our organization? Do you believe it is best that the BOD does not have to be open with the membership?

Thanks,

Mark

[Gary C.]

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Mark, don't have a clue what you referencing about my deletion of your posts. There are about six other moderators than myself. Policy is to notify the Member about the post being deleted before/or at same time it's deleted. Suggest you click on "My Posts" and see if the post that you're looking for shows up. If it doesn't please e-mail me gchesnut@charter.net so I can communicate with the other moderators. Believe honest and open questions are allowed and best if communicated directly to your NCRS Regional Director if you would like to receive a response. Gary....

[Wayne B.]

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I don't know about the idea of having ads for cars and parts here. Just the nature of the organization reaches to a much more refined version of a vehicle.

You open this forum up to sale ads and you get every junk bucket car and every used car salesman just putting this site on their list, along with a dozen others, whenever they want to dump something, who wants to sift through that? I just roll my eyes at 95% of the cars I see advertised on other sites. Do you really want to sift through ads like "Fabulous 70 LT-1!" then the ad goes on NOM, 94 seats, custom paint, custom sound, flared fenders (oh, and new shag carpeting)? And how about those ads like "NOS front grilles 70, 71, 72"? Ya they all go together.

[Darwin O.]

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I don't know about the idea of having ads for cars and parts here. Just the nature of the organization reaches to a much more refined version of a vehicle.

You open this forum up to sale ads and you get every junk bucket car and every used car salesman just putting this site on their list, along with a dozen others, whenever they want to dump something, who wants to sift through that? I just roll my eyes at 95% of the cars I see advertised on other sites. Do you really want to sift through ads like "Fabulous 70 LT-1!" then the ad goes on NOM, 94 seats, custom paint, custom sound, flared fenders (oh, and new shag carpeting)? And how about those ads like "NOS front grilles 70, 71, 72"? Ya they all go together.

I thought that only NCRS members were allowed to post on this Forum - we need a membership number to register. If only NCRS members were posting ads, then I doubt that you'd get the junk bucket cars you're describing. I can't see someone paying for a membership just to join the Forum to try to dump a sub-standard car or parts on the people who would be the most qualified to know the difference. Especially considering that the ads are going out to folks all over the continent (world) - who would pay for shipping on a junk bucket car? If ads were restricted to private members, no businesses - then I think the quality of the ads would be pretty good. The whole point is to try to get those like-minded individuals with a more refined vision of a vehicle together - which a 'for sale' section could facilitate.

And, if you didn't want to look at the 'for sale' ads, you wouldn't need to - they could be in a separate forum away from the Technical Discussion.

Cheers,
Darwin.

[Roy B.]

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How would this board react if a member stated ( on this forum) they were selling parts (let say for 63 Corvette) on the other forum CF that has a for sale section. Not mentioning the parts their selling just that there 63 parts. Would that be OK??? That way members here are alerted !!
Would that solve this matter??

[Bill C.]

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That would be a VERY FAIR compromise....

[Kenneth H.]

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There are plenty of other resources out there on the net to find almost anything that you could want to purchase for your 'vette. Heck, half the fun of this hobby is spending days or weeks searching for and finding the "right" part. I don't think that the NCRS needs to host a "for sale" board.

But if it did, who then would be the referee for all of the disputes that will crop up, and how would we pay for that person's time to resolve those issues? And what's to stop a shady character (such as the one that has been discussed in detail in another recent post) from joining NCRS and then using the NCRS sponsored "for sale" board to take advantage of our members? Sounds like more headaches than it's worth to me. Just my opinion.

Thanks.

[David W.]

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There are plenty of other resources out there on the net to find almost anything that you could want to purchase for your 'vette. Heck, half the fun of this hobby is spending days or weeks searching for and finding the "right" part. I don't think that the NCRS needs to host a "for sale" board.

But if it did, who then would be the referee for all of the disputes that will crop up, and how would we pay for that person's time to resolve those issues? And what's to stop a shady character (such as the one that has been discussed in detail in another recent post) from joining NCRS and then using the NCRS sponsored "for sale" board to take advantage of our members? Sounds like more headaches than it's worth to me. Just my opinion.

Thanks.

How are the above situations handled when "shady characters" place ads in the Driveline and take advantage of Members? Same scenerio, different media. Caveat emptor.

[Kenneth H.]

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David, I don't know how NCRS deals with complaints about Driveline advertisers currently. As a matter of fact, I took a look at my copy of the Driveline last night and noticed that the seller referenced in the other post has a full page ad in it. The difference is that it wouldn't be the same scenerio, different media but an additional scenerio, different media. An online "for sale" board would probably generate many more ads than the Driveline currently lists, and thus generate many more complaints about "shady characters".

[Michael W.]

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An online "for sale" board would probably generate many more ads than the Driveline currently lists, and thus generate many more complaints about "shady characters".

An online version of the for sale board should have the same content as the hard copy version. For the rare occasion of a shady character (one every 5 years?) kick them out of both versions. No big deal.

[Kenneth H.]

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"An online version of the for sale board should have the same content as the hard copy version. For the rare occasion of a shady character (one every 5 years?) kick them out of both versions. No big deal."

Michael,

If you want an online version with the "same content as the hard copy version", that already exists. The Driveline is already online. On the other hand, if you want a searchable version of the Driveline online, that sounds like a great idea. It would take some time and effort to create a searchable document, but you wouldn't have any more complaints than you already have the way it is now.

Thanks.

[Michael W.]

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If you want an online version with the "same content as the hard copy version", that already exists. The Driveline is already online. On the other hand, if you want a searchable version of the Driveline online, that sounds like a great idea. It would take some time and effort to create a searchable document, but you wouldn't have any more complaints than you already have the way it is now.

Thanks.

I'm aware of the online version. The document is searchable with most versions of .pdf file viewers. What is being discussed here is a 'for sale' list I suppose somewaht similar to other web sites that allow registered users to post their own ads directly, in real time. There's no technical reason that such postings could not be combined with the traditional mailed-in ads presently used. Time, manpower and cost of course are a different issue.

[William D.]

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I have spoken with powers to be about this subject in the past. I agree with a for sale area on the website! However NCRS makes money on advertising in the driveline, and a majority of members do not use this website. I believe the BOD believes it would be a disadvantage to those members.

Bill