Color Match Issue

[Dallas K.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Tom,

I have found some more paint codes for Laguna Gray.

Valspar N753
PPG 2198
DuPont 5134
RM 2258
MS 4057
Azko GMA70:992
WA 4005

Please let me know if you find the right color mix. My PPG paint supplier here in Wichita doesn't mix lacquer here, they have to have it mixed in Kansas City, so it takes a few days everytime we try a new mix to get the paint and then a few more days to get my painter to spray some.

I might consider sending you my paint standard, But I would need to know that I would get it back. I gave a lot of money for it. I had several NCRS judges look at it and they seemed to think it was correct. And if I ever had any problems at a judging meet with my paint, to just pull the standard out for them to look at.

Dallas

[Stephen B.]

Re: Color Match Issue

I have a Laguna Gray '70 LT-1 coupe that's apart with a hood that I believe has the original paint on it.

[Tom L.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Thanks Steve. Several painted and polished samples are on their way to Indiana for comparison to a BowTie car, thanks in large part to Terry. Once I get the color dialed in, I'll post the formula so it'll be in the archives for anyone else who may need it down the road.

[Dallas K.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Tom,


How are you doing on the laguna gray paint? I'm having no luck on this end.

Dallas

[Tom L.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Dallas,

Actually, it's going pretty well. I haven't posted the formula yet because we're still tweaking the color. Thanks to help from Terry McManmon and Gary Bosselman of Roscoe Restorations, we've gotten it pretty close. I've been sending test samples to Gary in Illinois for comparison to the real deal.

The attached photo shows the latest test sample (bottom) sitting on the t-top of a bowtie original paint Laguna Gray car. As you can see, it's pretty close. The primary difference I see is in the metallic flake. It looks coarser on the original to me. I'm shooting my test samples wet with a crappy primer gun, which impacts how the metallic flake flows out. Gary properly shot a sample at his shop and said that the metal flake is a great match.

Although the color appears to match in the photo, Gary, who's looking at it in person, suggested a nominal adjustment of a 1.4 part increase in the blue.

I had a new pint mixed up today with the additional blue. This will likely be the color I'll go with. The formula of the sample in the picture is as follows:

Pint:
DMA 349 Fine Aluminum 307.1
DMA 358 Black 142.0
DMA 375 Blue 35.6
DMA 360 Dark Red 11.3

[Jack H.]

Re: Color Match Issue

How about the bottom side of the fuel filler door? It ought to be about as factory pristine as you'll find since it generally was NOT washed/waxed and wasn't exposed to sunlight bake...

[Terry M.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Thanks Tom, but all I did was to put together you and Gary. Gary is doing all the hard work, but it is what he does best. He is very skilled at paint.

[Tom L.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Thanks Tom, but all I did was to put together you and Gary. Gary is doing all the hard work, but it is what he does best. He is very skilled at paint.

Terry,

Gary has been a tremendous help. Based upon my interactions with him and the work shown on his website, http://roscoe-restoration.com/ , I'd be sending my car there for paint if he wasn't a thousand miles away.

Tom

[Terry M.]

Re: Color Match Issue

He has worked on both my Corvettes, but he is real busy for good reason.

[Tom R.]

Re: Color Match Issue

I have no idea if this would help but I have an original color brochure from the Dealer that came with my car which is Laguna. I don't know if it could be scanned/matched, etc. I'm in the process of also restoring so I too need/want to be as close as possible.

[Terry M.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Unfortunately the color "tabs" in the dealer display book, as well as the Corvette color brochure sold by the NCRS store, are ink printed on paper. They are fine to give the new car buyer a general impression of the color they are selecting, but for purposes of matching paint they are worthless.

There are 5 x 7 (about) metal "standards" that are actual paint which were used at the factory for color matching purposes. Those are useable, but there are not too many of them around, as you might guess.

[Dallas K.]

Re: Color Match Issue

That is what I have. A factory metal paint standard for laguna gray. But we are having a terrible time matching it here. I would like to see if Tom would send me a color spray out of the paint when he is finished so I can compare them.

Dallas

[Erik S.]

Re: Color Match Issue

Thanks Tom, but all I did was to put together you and Gary. Gary is doing all the hard work, but it is what he does best. He is very skilled at paint.

Thanks Terry for this - I have reached out to him as well for my corvette bronze "issue"

[Terry M.]

Re: Color Match Issue

That would be a good idea as a "double-blind" test.
Were you not able to have that test panel scanned?

[Terry M.]