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  • E S.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 29, 2008
    • 451

    '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

    Did'nt see much in archives-could someone post a pic of their vin. stamp on the intake manifold?
    Thanks-E.J.
  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2027

    #2
    Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

    Think you mean the VIN stamp on the doghouse?

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

      Originally posted by E J Storrer (49810)
      Did'nt see much in archives-could someone post a pic of their vin. stamp on the intake manifold?
      Thanks-E.J.
      Not mine, but was at Carlisle about a decade ago. Early car -- chrome optional.


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      • E S.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 29, 2008
        • 451

        #4
        Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

        Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
        Think you mean the VIN stamp on the doghouse?
        Sorry-I guess you could call it a doghouse-(but I believe that nickname refers to the '57-'62 variety) Personally, it looks more like a tunnel ram with a carbureter on the side to me.Or maybe a square igloo with eight legs? However,in G.M. parts catalogs,I think one can find these "things" in group 3.265. (Manifold-engine intake) P.N. 7017391
        E.J.

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        • E S.
          Very Frequent User
          • December 29, 2008
          • 451

          #5
          Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

          Wayne- Thanks for the pic.
          I'm looking at a unit that is for sale,and am trying to decide if it is legit.I have seen a few others over the years,and as I recall, the block stamp and the intake stamp were done with the same stamp?
          I owned #11774 back in the '70's,it is a legit car,(it had drum brakes by the way),but the unit was missing when I bought the car,so I don't know what the stamp looked like on that car.Seems like I saw one at Bloom. one year that was stamped the opposite of your picture?
          Thanks-E.J.

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          • Wayne M.
            Expired
            • March 1, 1980
            • 6414

            #6
            Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

            Originally posted by E J Storrer (49810)
            ......However,in G.M. parts catalogs,I think one can find these "things" in group 3.265. (Manifold-engine intake) P.N. 7017391 ....E.J.
            Right you are -- and what the hobby commonly calls the FI baseplate is named "Adapter" by Chevrolet, in the same parts group, # 3826810.

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            • John D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 1, 1979
              • 5507

              #7
              Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

              EJ, Proper terminology is "Plenum". The late 64's and most of the 65 Fi's had the most of the serial number stamped on them.
              Meanwhile most of those stamps were not that distinct. If it not uncommon to see a plenum stamped two or three times. Remember the chassis was moving so the poor operator didn't have much time to get the stamp perfect.
              If you see one that belongs in an art gallery then you might suspect that its not real. On the other hand sometimes the stamping is damn near perfect.
              Take a nice pic if possible and put it up here. Jim Gessner and others have an extension and I mean extension list of most all of the 65 FI cars
              .
              I refuse to take part in restamping a customers plenum as part of the FI restoration.

              Let us know the approx vin number stamped on the plenum, the serial number on the ID tag and then maybe we can tell if it's the real deal or a bubba job. Good luck, JD

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              • Michael H.
                Expired
                • January 29, 2008
                • 7477

                #8
                Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

                Originally posted by John DeGregory (2855)
                EJ, Proper terminology is "Plenum".

                The late 64's and most of the 65 Fi's had the most of the serial number stamped on them.

                Meanwhile most of those stamps were not that distinct. If it not uncommon to see a plenum stamped two or three times. Remember the chassis was moving so the poor operator didn't have much time to get the stamp perfect.
                JD
                I agree with Wayne and E.J. The proper term would be manifold, as described in the GM parts book. A plenum is actually only a part of the intake manifold.
                L88 intake manifolds (and lotsa other manifolds) had plenums but we don't call these manifolds "plenums".

                I agree, late 64 and most 65's had the character stamp on the manifold. (plenum)
                Something to keep in mind is the fact that the number on the "plenum" was made using the exact same stamp tool/characters as the number on the engine pad so the numbers must not only match numerically but also exact character design. The engine and FI were all stamped at the same station as the assembled components were moving down the engine dress line. (not the chassis line)

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                • E S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 29, 2008
                  • 451

                  #9
                  Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

                  uote=John DeGregory (2855);452404]EJ, Proper terminology is "Plenum". The late 64's and most of the 65 Fi's had the most of the serial number stamped on them.
                  Meanwhile most of those stamps were not that distinct. If it not uncommon to see a plenum stamped two or three times. Remember the chassis was moving so the poor operator didn't have much time to get the stamp perfect.
                  If you see one that belongs in an art gallery then you might suspect that its not real. On the other hand sometimes the stamping is damn near perfect.
                  Take a nice pic if possible and put it up here. Jim Gessner and others have an extension and I mean extension list of most all of the 65 FI cars
                  .
                  I refuse to take part in restamping a customers plenum as part of the FI restoration.

                  Let us know the approx vin number stamped on the plenum, the serial number on the ID tag and then maybe we can tell if it's the real deal or a bubba job. Good luck, JD[/quote]

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                  • Wayne M.
                    Expired
                    • March 1, 1980
                    • 6414

                    #10
                    Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

                    Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                    ....... the number on the "plenum" was made using the exact same stamp tool/characters as the number on the engine pad so the numbers must not only match numerically but also exact character design. The engine and FI were all stamped at the same station as the assembled components were moving down the engine dress line. (not the chassis line)
                    .... And that depending where the stamp was applied on the "plenum ", it may have been on a slightly curved surface, making a difference on the character impression from one end of the gang holder to the other. As John DeG says "perfect is suspect".

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                    • E S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • December 29, 2008
                      • 451

                      #11
                      Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

                      JD-I still believe the proper name for the "part" that the fuel meter and air meter are attached to is manifold- Having said that-who cares? We all know what we are talking about. Furthermore, From reading your posts and replies to this forum, I, and I expect, everyone else, have nothing but utter respect for your thoughts, opions,suggestions, and practical knowledge of the F.I. units/cars. Its also good to hear that you don't choose to participate in the re-stamping business-hopefully that applies to the blocks also. Wish everyone in the hobby felt the same.Regards-EJ

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                      • Wayne M.
                        Expired
                        • March 1, 1980
                        • 6414

                        #12
                        Re: '65 F.I. vin. derivitive

                        A complete '65 FI set-up just appeared on eBay -- off car 5118620.



                        Too bad with all those pics, there's none of the VIN derivative; maybe one of you could 'send a message' requesting he add or email a close-up.

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