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  • Edward S.
    Expired
    • December 1, 1986
    • 514

    #16
    Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

    Valeria, just make sure the battery tender you get is large enough to put not only your wine on it but your cheese also.

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    • Terry B.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1988
      • 111

      #17
      Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

      Gas does go bad!! My carb is soaking right now due to old gas. The bottom of the filter's glass bowl looks like pitch has settled in it. The fuel pump wouldn't pump and upon removing the bottom cover I found the valves covered with the same black residue. There are globs of a hardened substance on the diaphragm that again has the appearance of tar or pitch.
      I have photos of the fuel pump but have never posted a photo here.
      Oh and my power washer is also in need of repairs due to aged fuel.
      The stale gas stinks horribly and I have doudbts about its ability to even be combustible. I had not started the Vette for about 10-12 months. And yes I know about and use Stabil but apparently haven't used it correctly??
      Not starting during storage may be good for engine wear but poor for gas and related components.

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      • Valeria H.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 27, 2009
        • 463

        #18
        Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

        I have the "gas gone bad" covered as I use avgas in the car. We've discussed this subject many times here on the TDB and I sticking with the avgas.

        Stupid question coming - Does the voltage of the tender make any difference?
        Valeria
        Valeria Hutchinson
        Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

        1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
        2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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        • Michael W.
          Expired
          • April 1, 1997
          • 4290

          #19
          Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

          Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
          I have the "gas gone bad" covered as I use avgas in the car. We've discussed this subject many times here on the TDB and I sticking with the avgas.

          Stupid question coming - Does the voltage of the tender make any difference?
          Valeria
          The avgas thing is a myth and a serious waste of money and time. Use it if you like, but there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of cars and bikes that get stored over the winter using nothing but pump gas (octane rating is irrelevant) that work just fine with NO signs of deterioration. I've been storing toys every winter for about 40 years and not once have I had any problems.

          You need a 12 volt battery tender.

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          • Michael J.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 27, 2009
            • 7073

            #20
            Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

            Here's a pic of my '67 on winter life support from the BatteryMINDer+, a great unit. I leave my battery in since it is such a PITA to take out. I don't run it unless I can drive it for at least 20 minutes. I don't use StaBil either, had bad results with my boat, lots of smokin' and sputtering until the gas was gone.
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            Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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            • Valeria H.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 27, 2009
              • 463

              #21
              Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

              I just placed an order for the BatteryMinder +. Thanks Terry for the suggestion about purchasing a tender that also could charge gel cells. The batteryMinder + was the only one I could find that could charge lead acid, AGM and gels.
              Valeria
              Valeria Hutchinson
              Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

              1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
              2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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              • Jimmy G.
                Very Frequent User
                • November 1, 1979
                • 975

                #22
                Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                I disagree with most of the postings. I like to start my cars monthly if for no other reason to keep the carb gaskets (especially Holley) from drying out. In my lifetime I will never start it enough to do any damage.
                Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                • Pat M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 2006
                  • 1575

                  #23
                  Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                  Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                  I disagree with most of the postings. I like to start my cars monthly if for no other reason to keep the carb gaskets (especially Holley) from drying out. In my lifetime I will never start it enough to do any damage.
                  That's how I feel. Plus, I don't do it "just to run them" - I also do it to drive and enjoy them!

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                  • Jim S.
                    Expired
                    • August 31, 2001
                    • 730

                    #24
                    Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                    I was in the Chassis section with responsibility for steering at the Saturn Corp from 1986 thru launch in 1991. The Saturn powertrain group was developing the single and double overhead cam 1.9 liter 4 cylinder engine at that time. I know that they dedicated one car for what they called the "Granny Test." Someone went out and started the car every morning and let it run for just a couple minutes. They may have conducted the test for the better part of a year. Unfortunately, I wasn't in the powertrain area so I never heard the results of the test completion and teardown.

                    It was one of the "What-If" tests that the powertrain group used to test the durability of their aluminum engine design.

                    Jim

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                    • Michael W.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1997
                      • 4290

                      #25
                      Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                      Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                      I disagree with most of the postings. I like to start my cars monthly if for no other reason to keep the carb gaskets (especially Holley) from drying out. In my lifetime I will never start it enough to do any damage.
                      The OP was starting her car daily, not monthly.

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                      • Valeria H.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 27, 2009
                        • 463

                        #26
                        Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                        Just a quick question, Is it possible to keep the battery minder/charger intact and still keep the car under cover?
                        Valeria
                        Valeria Hutchinson
                        Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                        1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                        2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                        • Valeria H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • July 27, 2009
                          • 463

                          #27
                          Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                          I have a question? Why can I not post onto this thread that I started??
                          I did not say anything objectionable about anything? I really need to learn about the rules.?
                          Valeria
                          Valeria Hutchinson
                          Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                          1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                          2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                          • Clem Z.
                            Expired
                            • January 1, 2006
                            • 9427

                            #28
                            Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                            Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                            Just a quick question, Is it possible to keep the battery minder/charger intact and still keep the car under cover?
                            Valeria
                            i do that with my 2008 corvette all winter long as with all prevoius ones

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                            • Steven G.
                              Expired
                              • November 17, 2008
                              • 348

                              #29
                              Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                              [quote=Valeria Hutchinson (50643);467890]Can I be setting my car up for possible damage by starting and running the engine of my car without driving it?? With the weather less than optimal lately, I've been going out nightly to the garage and starting my "60, turn on some tunes and run the car for maybe 15 minutes. Is there any possible damage to the engine/etc that can occur with this practice?

                              I think I am doing the right thing for the car but I just might be mistaken.
                              Any thoughts?
                              I do start my vehicles every month or two year round and not let the gas get older than two years, but the garage or storage area temperature should be considered. I think engine seals and rings will last longer due to some occassional lubing but that's me, also, disconnect the charger before starting, unless they have a booster charge and low amp. slow chargers do not, most have a safety breaker but not all. Steve

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                              • Terry M.
                                Beyond Control Poster
                                • September 30, 1980
                                • 15573

                                #30
                                Re: Damage from repetative starting car without driving??

                                You just did post to the thread you started, and you have several other times. I don't understand the problem.
                                Terry

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