Spinner Orientation

[Duke W.]

Re: Spinner Orientation

The AIM is not a NCRS document. It's merely a Chevrolet Engineering document that is considered by some (but not all) NCRS officials to have no credibilty, whatsoever.

Duke

[Michael H.]

Re: Spinner Orientation

Duke,


I will take the AIM (I usually do) along with the TM and JG to argue my points

Rob,

If I were to have a car judged, and there was a bit of disagreement on an issue, such as this one, I would take a copy of the AIM sheet as mentioned, AND a scan/copy of some of the responses in this and the previous discussion from some of the heavy hitters in our hobby, like Duke, Crisler, Wayne Midkiff, John Hinckley etc etc. Guys that have been around the block a few times. I think that would be convincing to any judge. I doubt anyone would want to disagree with Hinckley.

Also, I think there are a lot of good pictures of new car road tests by car magazines from the era that may show the spinner/valve stem.

I looked in the 63-64 JG and there is no mention of a specific "clock position" for the spinner. I don't know about the 65 or 66 JG's though.

[Tracy C.]

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Holy Carp...Not this again

[Grant P.]

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Boy am I glad I have knock offs!!!!!

[Michael J.]

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OMG! Now I have to run back down to the garage to check the 4 I just restored a month ago!

[Wayne M.]

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Boy am I glad I have knock offs!!!!!

Grant -- KO owners have their own urban legends [at least that I've heard] . It has to do with the spinner center caps -- goes like this: ..... as the car rolls forward, from a fixed point of reference, for both left and right sides the colors rotate in the order red/white/blue. For this to be true, there'd have to be a different cap part # for left and right.

The R-W-B order is for the driver side -- R-B-W for passenger side (same center cap ).

[Gene M.]

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I suggest you keep copies of the information John and Mike has shared with us that is different from the judging manual (or what is in the judges head).

You can present copies when judges attempt to make up deductions on your flight judging. Suggest they exercise the pencil's eraser and give you back the points. "Thank you very much". Just be polite but firm and be prepared with back up documentation. Many of the judges today are going from passed down information and not by experience.

[Michael J.]

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Grant -- KO owners have their own urban legends [at least that I've heard] . It has to do with the spinner center caps -- goes like this: ..... as the car rolls forward, from a fixed point of reference, for both left and right sides the colors rotate in the order red/white/blue. For this to be true, there'd have to be a different cap part # for left and right.

The R-W-B order is for the driver side -- R-B-W for passenger side (same center cap ).

OMG, got to run down to the garage again to roll the KOs on the other one to check, a man's work is never done!

[Duke W.]

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Boy am I glad I have knock offs!!!!!

No, you have to beat on the nut until one of the "bars" lines up with the valve stem hole. See the AIM.

Duke

[Walter G.]

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There has been a similar thread on C6 cars re the wheel center cap orientation to the valve stem. I checked all my '05 literature/pics and they do in fact have the flags on the cap positioned consistently. They can certainly be installed other than this way, so I'm sure many are driving around with 'wrong' cap positioning. I believe the caps were dealer installed, so unless the prep people are extremely detail oriented themselves or there are specifics in the dealer prep instructions many of these caps are randomly put in place. I've had mine off and on for autocrossing and never gave it a second thought until the thread appeared on the C6 forum a while back. It appears this has been an issue spanning several generations; something for NCRS to document for C6 judging in about 20 years!

[Valeria H.]

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I should be receiving my spinners back from the rechromers any day now. I am assuming there was not a specific location for C1 spinner placement either?
Valeria

[Terry M.]

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There has been a similar thread on C6 cars re the wheel center cap orientation to the valve stem. I checked all my '05 literature/pics and they do in fact have the flags on the cap positioned consistently. They can certainly be installed other than this way, so I'm sure many are driving around with 'wrong' cap positioning. I believe the caps were dealer installed, so unless the prep people are extremely detail oriented themselves or there are specifics in the dealer prep instructions many of these caps are randomly put in place. I've had mine off and on for autocrossing and never gave it a second thought until the thread appeared on the C6 forum a while back. It appears this has been an issue spanning several generations; something for NCRS to document for C6 judging in about 20 years!

The new-car prep folks at the Museum know how to put the center caps on right. Check out any of the R8C cars.

When the Ron Fellows edition was introduced the folks who preped the car for the press kit photos put the center caps on wrong -- no not the flag orientation -- they didn't line up the center cap tabs with the wheel spokes. I had an interesting conversation, and made a new friend, with one of the Chevrolet engineers at the Chicago Auto Show about that. He did allow as how only Corvette owners would notice something like that, and that a similar issue on any other GM car would have gone unnoticed. I assured him that NCRS members would be all over that like flies on do do. BTW: It turns out he owns a 1971 LT1. Small world.

[John H.]

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I should be receiving my spinners back from the rechromers any day now. I am assuming there was not a specific location for C1 spinner placement either?
Valeria

That's correct (in spite of the rumor perpetrated years ago by Roy Braatz and Noland Adams as a joke, which has taken on a life of its own)

[Dennis C.]

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That's correct (in spite of the rumor perpetrated years ago by Roy Braatz and Noland Adams as a joke, which has taken on a life of its own)

John,

I don't doubt what you are saying for a moment, but at the Kissimmee show the 61-62 judging team was taking deductions for incorrect spinner orientation.

It seems to be one of those items that you need to adhere to if you want the points.

Dennis

[John H.]

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John,

I don't doubt what you are saying for a moment, but at the Kissimmee show the 61-62 judging team was taking deductions for incorrect spinner orientation.

It seems to be one of those items that you need to adhere to if you want the points.

Dennis

Dennis -

The '61-'62 judging team guys need to talk to Roy Braatz and Noland Adams...