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  • Ronald L.
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    • October 18, 2009
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    66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

    Although there are several pieces of good info in the archives, they don't get to a conclusion - two questions remain:

    1. Was there a defined time between Feb 66 and June 66 where the shields went away?

    2. Did the tapped hole in the heads go away first - does it exist on the late June 66 example that did not have plug shields?

    Here are some of the pieces of the threads...


    Michael Hanson (4067)
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    65-66 Spark Plug Shields, Again
    Well, I spent the evening researching spark plug heat shields for 65-66 big blocks and this is what I've learned. There's absolutely zero consistancy at all and some of the GM information from the print does not apply to the actual part. I just looked at a box full of NOS shields (courtesy, Smokey Yunick) and there were several different versions of this part. Several still have the original part number sticker on them. The 3871266's, that are supposed to have a hole for the mounting screw, had instead, a slot, just like the 1st design shield was supposed to have. There are too many variations in the finished part design to get into here but mostly I learned that almost anything goes as far as trying to decide which would be correct for a certain build date 65 or 66. My 66 has what I believe are the 2nd design 266 with a hole instead of a slot which does not agree with the NOS parts that I've just looked at. Over the years, I've had NOS, some slotted and some with the hole I feel either would be correct for nearly all 65-66 with the possible exception of early 65 buids. I think it's a dead isue and no further research is needed.

    Here's the most important thing I learned. I always knew that some time in the 66 model year, the shields were eliminated completely. They were NOT used through the end of 66 production. I always thought this occured near the end of 66 production but I just uncovered information that shows the shields were removed about half way through the model year. Also, in the 66 AIM, the shield, bolt and washer were removed from production on 4 February 66. I think most feel the shield was used to the end of 66 production so it should be interesting to hear from owners of original 66's.

    Michael

    Joe Lucia (12484)
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    Re: 1965/1966 big block spark plug heat shields
    Michael------

    Apparently, these things were made up a variety of ways. The 1965 GM #3868828 are supposed to be 2-1/2" long with a slot in the bracket and a radiused end for the rear of the "cut out" section.

    The late 1965 and 1966 GM #3871266 are supposed to be 3" long with a hole in the attaching bracket and a "squared off" end at the rear of the "cut out" section.

    Maybe the supplier couldn't get it right.
  • Wayne M.
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    • March 1, 1980
    • 6414

    #2
    Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

    Originally posted by Ronald Lovelace (50931)
    Although there are several pieces of good info in the archives, they don't get to a conclusion - two questions remain:
    1. Was there a defined time between Feb 66 and June 66 where the shields went away?
    2. Did the tapped hole in the heads go away first - does it exist on the late June 66 example that did not have plug shields ? .....
    Back to the top, as nobody has replied. I don't have a '66, but I have some hypothetical questions to add to yours.

    If barrel plug shields discontinued during the '66 MY, does this mean that after this date the oval port heads (702's) and the square ports (858's) were replaced by the 390 / 391 of the '67 model year ? Or, were they the same '66 casting #s and (a) the holes for the barrel bracket were still there, but unused; or (b) stopped drilling the holes ? [which is your question # 2, above]

    And what about U69 cars; the plug wire braided shielding ground clips of the 1st design '66 need the barrels to attach to. Did they switch to the '67 eyelet type terminals (attach under valve cover bolt) at the same time ?

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    • Ronald L.
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      • October 18, 2009
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      #3
      Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited-calling April & later BB owners

      Joe Lucia, Michael Hanson, Richard Snow Feb 2005 discussion pasted below as the thread is too old and cannot be revived:
      Michael Hanson (4067)
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      Re: 3871266 Removed 2-4-66
      James,

      I'm sure the installation continued after the date on the paperwork, at least for a short time. However, I don't think it had anything to do with using up existing stock at the plant. Generally, when there was a supply of parts that had been removed from the assembly process, the entire lot would be scrap. This would exclude major expensive components but everything else was disposed of. It was actually more cost efficient to scrap parts than it would be to ship back to source or parts distribution centers to be boxed for service sales. If I were to post some of the "scrap orders" I have on parts, it would bring tears to the eyes of any Corvette owner.

      I don't know the exact reason why the shield was removed from 66 production but it didn't seem to have any affect on anything.

      Michael

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      February 2nd, 2005, 04:37 PM
      Joe Lucia (12484)
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      Re: 3871266 Removed 2-4-66
      Michael------

      One other thing: in your original post you said that the shields were removed from PRODUCTION on 2-4-66. What I was commendting on in my response was that they were not removed from PRODUCTION on that date. They were removed from the AIM drawing on that date.

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      February 5th, 2005, 09:14 AM
      Richard Snow (25372)
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      Re: More On 65-66 BB Spark Plug Heat Shields
      Michael,
      I have an original engine 427/390 convert. built in St.Louis, late in the day on Friday,June10th,1966. Engine was assembled Tuesday,May 31st,1966 in Tonawanda,NY. Block(942)was cast, Sunday(yes,Sunday)May 20th,1966. Conv. body S-7597 was built in St.Louis on Thursday,June 9th,1966. This engine did not have spark plug heat shields when I acquired it. Hope this helps your research in this area.

      Any one with 66 427 ever look at their heads to see if the holes were tapped? Any swear their car did not come with the shields???

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      • Andrew S.
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        • July 29, 2009
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        #4
        Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

        I thought I'd add a reply to bring this thread back up to the top.

        I'm restoring my late June built, '66 427/390. Part of this massive undertaking includes a new intake and heads as the ones I bought it with were wrong (early 70s aluminum intake and iron heads from a Chevelle or similar). My block is correct, though, thankfully.

        I have some June dated heads coming to me (June 11 & 9), but I have not yet seen them to know if the holes are tapped.

        My engine build date is June 27th & it's a U69. From the above discussion, it sounds like my engine should definitely NOT include the spark plug heat shields. Right?

        But the other question remains unanswered:
        The plug wire braided shielding ground clips of the 1st design '66 need the barrels to attach to. Did they switch to the '67 eyelet type terminals (attach under valve cover bolt) at the same time?

        What should be the proper configuration for my grounding clips?

        Thanks!
        Andy

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        • Gary J.
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          • April 1, 1980
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          #5
          Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

          I have a June built '66 - 427/390 with the plug shields. The attachment is slotted.

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          • Wayne M.
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            • March 1, 1980
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            #6
            Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

            Somebody's recently purchased a set of six (not even 8) originals for $300 on eBay. Seller is member John Meissinger. These are the longer 3" design with the hole on the attaching tab [versus the shorter 2_1/2" earlier (?) style with the slot on the tab.

            link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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            • Ronald L.
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              • October 18, 2009
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              #7
              Re: 66 BB Plug Shield/heads revisited

              I saw that incredible price. Glad I have my originals as the prior owners have confirmed.

              While everyone in recent memory is going to say they saw these in zinc, is there any evidence out there that old zinc ends up blackish or were some of these actually black?

              Is there a table top method to confirm zinc presence?

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