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  • Ron N.
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    • August 18, 2008
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    Tire Deduction � Need Clarification

    Last year at a regional judging I had an 18 point originality point deduction:
    - 4 Michelin radials on car (6 x 4 = 24 total points x 75% = 18 point deduction)
    - 1 Original Goodyear space tire 6 points = 0 deduction
    Total originality deduction = 18 points


    - 4 Firestone or Goodrich
    - 4 black wall
    - 4 DOT
    Total originality deduction 6 x 4 = 24 total points x 10% = 2.4 points. G/Y spare = 0



    Help is appreciated. Thanks

    Ron
  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #2
    Originally posted by Ron Napoliello (49346)

    - 4 Firestone or Goodrich
    - 4 black wall
    - 4 DOT
    Total originality deduction 6 x 4 = 24 total points x 10% = 2.4 points. G/Y spare = 0



    Help is appreciated. Thanks

    Ron
    Ron -

    The spare tire doesn't have to match the four road tires; the spare and the road tires are judged separately on their own merit.

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    • Ron N.
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      • August 18, 2008
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      #3

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      • Rick A.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 2002
        • 2147

        #4
        Rick Aleshire
        2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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        • Ron N.
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          • August 18, 2008
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          • Tom R.
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            • July 31, 1993
            • 62

            #6
            Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
            Ron -

            The spare tire doesn't have to match the four road tires; the spare and the road tires are judged separately on their own merit.

            John;

            Are you saying that cars came off the assembly line road & spares didn't match?

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Originally posted by Tom Rolli (23038)
              John;

              Are you saying that cars came off the assembly line road & spares didn't match?
              Nope. All five tires and wheels matched in production, but the judging standard deals with them separately and doesn't require the spare tire to match the road tires (but the wheels all have to be the same).

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              • Chris E.
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                • November 3, 2006
                • 1322

                #8
                Chris Enstrom
                North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                2011 Z06, red/red

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                • Tom R.
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                  • July 31, 1993
                  • 62

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
                  For what it's worth, I was dinged at a Chapter meet for having Firestone road tires and a Goodyear spare. They specifically said that non-matching brands is NTFP. (not typical factory production)
                  Were your road tires size correct for the vehicle?

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                  • Chris E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 3, 2006
                    • 1322

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom Rolli (23038)
                    Were your road tires size correct for the vehicle?
                    Yup. You bet.
                    Chris Enstrom
                    North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                    1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                    2011 Z06, red/red

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                    • Mike M.
                      Director Region V
                      • August 31, 1994
                      • 1464

                      #11

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                      • Chris E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 3, 2006
                        • 1322

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mike Murray (25129)
                        Chris
                        Was your non-matching Goodyear spare an original production tire?
                        HaND
                        It was a Goodyear Power Cushion white wall from Kelsey Tire. So, from that standpoint, both the radial Firestones on the car and the bias ply spare were non-original. BUT, both were original brands...
                        Chris Enstrom
                        North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                        1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                        2011 Z06, red/red

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                        • Ron N.
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                          • August 18, 2008
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                          • Paul B.
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                            • April 30, 1995
                            • 482

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tom Rolli (23038)
                            John;

                            Are you saying that cars came off the assembly line road & spares didn't match?
                            Good point. If we're judging "as it left the factory", didn't they leave Flint, St. Louis & Bowling Green with five matching tires???

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                            • Pat M.
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                              • April 1, 2006
                              • 1575

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paul Borowski (26140)
                              Good point. If we're judging "as it left the factory", didn't they leave Flint, St. Louis & Bowling Green with five matching tires???
                              I think they allow a non-matching spare in an effort to encourage owners who only have original spares to keep them, rather than throw them out so all 5 tires will match.

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