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  • Peter L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1983
    • 1930

    #31
    Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

    Michael - I hope not because both the DILLs as shown in Wayne's posting and and the Schrader as shown in my posting are "hard black plastic." In fact most of the valve caps I have seen fit that description. Pete

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7073

      #32
      Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

      Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
      Michael - I hope not because both the DILLs as shown in Wayne's posting and and the Schrader as shown in my posting are "hard black plastic." In fact most of the valve caps I have seen fit that description. Pete
      I dunno, the ones that came on my '67 when I bought it were chrome with pretty little C2 crossed flags on them. Guess that will lose you points.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Gary C.
        Administrator
        • October 1, 1982
        • 17549

        #33
        Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

        Wayne, Pete, etal - attached copy & link to previous post with GM engineering standards on valve stems and Valve Stem Caps. Enjoy, Gary....
        https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=73871
        Attached Files
        NCRS Texas Chapter
        https://www.ncrstexas.org/

        https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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        • Peter L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1983
          • 1930

          #34
          Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

          Gary - I knew you would come through "to save the day." Now that we know there were N+1 (for those of us still using the OLD math, N=4) different TIRE VALVE CAPs used by GM, what's a Judge to do.

          As I keep saying, I love learning new things about old cars.

          Pete

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          • Jack H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1990
            • 9906

            #35
            Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

            I certainly believe that (Dill was not the only supplier)! For purchased parts, it was GM policy to have more than a single source of supply.

            I can remember when I was working for Texas Instruments, the 'jungle' of sign-off approvals a supplier had to go through to secure a sole source approval... It was SO lengthy and complex that it just wasn't worth the effort!

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            • Peter L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1983
              • 1930

              #36
              Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

              Michael - I don't see the ones that came on your 67 on Gary's GM Engineering Standards drawing; but perhaps if you paint them black and those Judges don't pull out their magnet to check them you might be OK ; but it's risky and you could lose points, so you might consider another course of action. Pete

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 6979

                #37
                Follow-up question to Gary C.

                Originally posted by Gary Chesnut (5895)
                Wayne, Pete, etal - attached copy & link to previous post with GM engineering standards on valve stems and Valve Stem Caps. Enjoy, Gary....
                https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=73871
                Gary,

                Is there a higher quality version of that JPG image somewhere? I can't make out any of the text as it gets too fuzzy when I zoom in.

                Gary

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                • Gary B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 6979

                  #38
                  Dill markings; big font or small on 2008 caps?

                  Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
                  Wayne - Spring thaw up there?

                  I have a box of 500 DILL 627 Valve Caps dated MAR 20 '08 and I checked all 500 of them and no alphanumeric characters at 3 o'clock. Not sure what it means if anything, just the facts.

                  You are going to cause some more trouble for those "seasoned" black had folks. Now they will have to carry a magnifying glass along with their "broach - buster, very bright flash light, magnet, and mirror etc.

                  Pete
                  Pete,

                  Do the caps in your box dated Mar 20, 2008 do the caps have the bigger font size DILL or the smaller font size?

                  Gary

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                  • Peter L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 1983
                    • 1930

                    #39
                    Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                    Gary - Small font. Pete

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 6979

                      #40
                      At least 3 versions of DILL

                      Pete,

                      So that means there were at least 3 versions of the DILL cap:

                      1) One with the small font size, with the alphanumeric code at 3 o'clock;

                      2) One with the small font, with no alphanumeric code at 3 o'clock;

                      3) One with the large font, with no alphanumeric code at 3 o'clock.

                      Yes?

                      Hopefully, Jeff Ashen will chime in sometime soon to tell us about his 20-year experience hunting for DILL caps.

                      Gary

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                      • Patrick T.
                        Expired
                        • September 30, 1999
                        • 1286

                        #41
                        Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                        I bought a new 2003 Z06 and they have Dill 627's on all the tires. I certainly was surprised. PT

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                        • Mike M.
                          Director Region V
                          • August 31, 1994
                          • 1463

                          #42
                          Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                          Hi Gary
                          Sorry, I can't make it out, what is the date of that document?
                          Thank you and HaND

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                          • Gary B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • February 1, 1997
                            • 6979

                            #43
                            Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                            Mike,

                            The date on the valve cap document posted by Gary Chesnut is June, 1968.

                            Gary

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                            • Jeff A.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • January 1, 2000
                              • 312

                              #44
                              Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                              Not that I consider myself an valve cap expert,
                              but from what I had observed hunting for these things for many years is this.

                              Small font with batch code - oldest
                              large font with batch code - 80's
                              No batch code - 90's and later
                              The dill 627's came in black, gray, and blue colors

                              I am sure that there were quite a few suppliers back in the day?

                              to tell the truth - lately all I grabbed was the dills, because those seemed to be the ones everyone wanted.
                              Wish I had watched more closely - likely i missed a lot of the Schrader ones.
                              My Cars

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                              • John H.
                                Beyond Control Poster
                                • December 1, 1997
                                • 16513

                                #45
                                Re: C2 (C1, C3?) tire valve caps -- Dill markings

                                Until the TPMS sensors became required by law, virtually ALL GM and Chrysler products came with Dill 627 caps; I routinely removed them from my assigned company cars and my wife's company lease cars and replaced them with generic caps up until two years ago.

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