Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

[Larry T.]

I am about to send a 1107365 big block starter off to be restored. I have two dated as follows:

September 20, 1965
October 18, 1965

The car is a November 5th car and the engine assembly date is October 6, 1965.

Which starter should I use? Thanks.

[John H.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

I am about to send a 1107365 big block starter off to be restored. I have two dated as follows:

September 20, 1965
October 18, 1965

The car is a November 5th car and the engine assembly date is October 6, 1965.

Which starter should I use? Thanks.

Larry -

I'd use the October 18th starter; the starter was installed at St. Louis, so it relates to the car's final assembly date, not to the engine assembly date.

[Larry T.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

I figured I could get away with either, but that was my best guess too. I wanted to be sure it was not too late (close to production) a date.

Thanks,

Larry

[Ronald L.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Larry, all those original parts on my car have dates one to three weeks ahead of the body asy. Oct date is right where you want to be.

[Michael G.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Build date of engine should be taken into consideration as starter would need to be manufactured before build date of engine.

[Larry T.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Build date of engine should be taken into consideration as starter would need to be manufactured before build date of engine.

Michael,

Are you certain? If the engine was assembled in Tonawanda on October 6 without the starter, and shipped to St. Louis where a starter was added and the complete engine was installed in a car the first week of November why would a mid October starter not work?

[Ronald L.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Larry, your Oct 66 is earlier than a 12/13 66 427 I once owned or the current April 427.

The date spread was the same, this car has all those original guts.
4-28 body - car
4-20 alt
4-13 starter

this list goes on...

[John H.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Build date of engine should be taken into consideration as starter would need to be manufactured before build date of engine.

Mike -

Nope. The engine build date has no relationship to the starter; the starter was installed at St. Louis, not at the engine plant.

[Michael G.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Thanks for the heads up John.....always learning.

[Larry T.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Mike -

Nope. The engine build date has no relationship to the starter; the starter was installed at St. Louis, not at the engine plant.

John,

Can you give a real quick rundown on what was on the engines as they came out of Tonawanda? Oil pan? Valve covers? Water pump? Intake?

Thanks.

[John H.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

John,

Can you give a real quick rundown on what was on the engines as they came out of Tonawanda? Oil pan? Valve covers? Water pump? Intake?

Thanks.

Larry -

Intake with thermostat housing and throttle return spring bracket, valve covers, distributor, water pump, oil pan, flywheel/clutch/bellhousing and lower inspection cover, harmonic damper, and spark plugs.

All engine parts in the Assembly Manual shown with an item number and part number callout were installed at St. Louis; any engine parts illustrated without a part number callout came as part of the engine assembly.

[F S.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

I have a starter # 1107 365 dated 5 E 21 . I was going to use it in my 396 65 Corvette. Is the 365 correct for a 1965 BB ?

[Joe L.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

I have a starter # 1107 365 dated 5 E 21 . I was going to use it in my 396 65 Corvette. Is the 365 correct for a 1965 BB ?

F.W.------


No, it's not correct for a 1965 L-78 despite the fact that the date "would work" for some 1965 L-78's. 1965 L-78 used starter GM #1107352. This is a VERY difficult-to-find starter part number (although a functionally equivalent and "identical-except-for-part number" starter would be very easy to obtain).

Assuming that the 1107365 starter you have is as originally configured (which may not be the case if it's been through a high volume commercial rebuilder), it would not even work for a 1965 L-78. 1965 L-78 used a starter with an aluminum nose with short and long starter bolts used with 12-3/4" flywheels. The 1107365 starter as originally configured used a cast iron nose with 2 intermediate length starter bolts for 14" flywheels.

[F S.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Joe, thank you for the information. It does confirm my information. The nose cone doesn't fit into the fly wheel,either. I have learned that the nose cone is specific to the L-78 motor.

[Joe L.]

Re: Which 1107365 starter date should I use?

Joe, thank you for the information. It does confirm my information. The nose cone doesn't fit into the fly wheel,either. I have learned that the nose cone is specific to the L-78 motor.

FW-----


The starter nose is by no means unique to the L-78. It's basically the same for all engines with 12-3/4" flywheel, big block and small block alike.