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  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9906

    #31
    Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

    Many believe that, Gene--completely unlawful to tamper with 'numbers' on a motor vehicle. But, that's because they haven't taken the time to FULLY read the Federal Statue, 18 USC, Section 511 (Altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers)...

    At the beginning of its text the statue really closes the door to any removal, obliteration, alteration, Etc. of any/all 'numbers' on a car. BUT, if you keep on reading, you'll get to this point in the statue:

    "
    (b)(1) Subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a
    removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration by a person
    specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection (unless such person
    knows that the vehicle or part involved is stolen).
    (2) The persons referred to in paragraph (1) of this subsection
    are -

    (A) a motor vehicle scrap processor or a motor vehicle
    demolisher who complies with applicable State law with respect to
    such vehicle or part;

    (B) a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal,
    obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary
    for the repair;

    (C) a person who restores or replaces an identification number
    for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable State law;
    and

    (D) a person who removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters
    a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the
    Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, if that person is the owner
    of the motor vehicle, or is authorized to remove, obliterate,
    tamper with or alter the decal or device by -

    (i) the owner or his authorized agent;

    (ii) applicable State or local law; or

    (iii) regulations promulgated by the Attorney General to

    implement the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act.
    (c) As used in this section, the term -"

    Bottom line, the law essentially says 'all bets are off' if the alteration is done either by the owner or his designated agent in the interest of restoration/repair!!!

    Now, that's at the Federal Level. Various States may have statues that are more narrow, eh?

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    • Frederick W.
      Expired
      • December 4, 2009
      • 159

      #32
      Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

      Is it acceptable to get a new "tag" for my Carter AFB with the "correct" number/date?
      Are these available?

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      • William C.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1975
        • 6037

        #33
        Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

        They are available, correctness may be another issue. Date and part number should also be stamped on the edge of the front mounting pad on an AFB
        Bill Clupper #618

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        • Frederick W.
          Expired
          • December 4, 2009
          • 159

          #34
          Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

          well, now that I look at the front mounting pad, I wonder if this may be the correct carb after all. Here is the stamp:

          01L3 3721S

          The 01L3 part is a little har to read. The 1L3 is clear, but the initial letter/number is difficult to read, almost looks like a "double" stamp.

          Can anyone translate the code?

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #35
            Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

            Measure the height of the number set, original is 3/32, service was 3/16 on the date code, originals are same size part number and date code. I'm not heavily into AFB date coding, but it looks like 1st week december of 1963 would be a good guess.
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Frederick W.
              Expired
              • December 4, 2009
              • 159

              #36
              Re: New Owner Needs Numbers Match Help

              Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
              Measure the height of the number set, original is 3/32, service was 3/16 on the date code, originals are same size part number and date code. I'm not heavily into AFB date coding, but it looks like 1st week december of 1963 would be a good guess.
              The height is 3/16"
              but I don't understand what you mean by your statement "original is 3/32, service was 3/16 on the date code..."

              Why would my May '63 build have a December '63 carb?

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