1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

[Joe G.]

Here are some more of Joe's oddball questions. I recently replaced a broken pivot shaft on the driver's inboard side of the car (It had been broken since 86 when I got the car. It had some front end damage that was repaired in the early 80's). I broke out the arsenal of reference materials. I noticed a descrepancy between the screws and J-clips from what is on my car versus what the TIM-JG says and the Paragon catalog shows. My AIM is a very poor quality copy and I need to replace it.

1. I am curious as to what other 65 cars might have for the hardware configuration on the screws and J-clips. With the headlights up, I have J-clips on the upper tabs only. I also have the smaller black philips head screws at all locations, both driver's and passenger's side are the same.

Looking at the reference material, it would have J-clips at all locations and longer zinc or cadmium screws going into the upper mounts or screwing in horizontially. I bought a new set of screws that is pictured.

Before I made the change I thought I would ask what others have noticed on their cars. This could just be a case of "let's put something in there that will work" when the front end was repaired.

2. Also does this look about right for the up position, reference spacing at the rear? It is not quite vertical. I have not taken the passenger's side loose yet and that is where it was set at the up limit.

3. I also had a "Y" bracket stop bolt that had a locking nut on it. This makes it a solid adjustment. I don't see that depicted in the AIM?

Thanks for any input.
Joe

[John H.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

3. I also had a "Y" bracket stop bolt that had a locking nut on it. This makes it a solid adjustment. I don't see that depicted in the AIM?

Thanks for any input.
Joe

Joe -

The nut was probably added to provide a jam lock for a substitute non-locking replacement Y-stop bolt; the original Y-stop bolts had a Nylok patch in the threads that made them self-locking, which is why they're called out in the A.I.M. as a "screw assembly" instead of just a "screw".

[Joe G.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Thanks John. The other bolt does have what you describe. Do you know if these are still available?

[Jim D.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Joe,

I have the j-nuts on the upper mounts with chrome screws and the bottom 2 are zinc self tapping screws that go into the tab of the bucket without any j-nuts. Mine has never been messed with (even has the original dated code T-3's) so I assume they are correct.

Jim

[Alan D.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

A little more info can be had from a search on the pn's. Bottoms are 9420683 while sides are 9420684 Just us the number in search.

[Joe G.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Thanks Jim. Do your bottom two screws look like the shorter black screws I have in the photo, or are they longer? The shorter ones look almost like mini lag screws with a pointed end.

joe

[Joe G.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Thanks Alan. I just did the search and came up with some good info and printed it out. I am going to give my copy of the AIM to the kids so they can play connect the dots.

The part numbers indicate that this is supposed to be two different screws.

I did not just want to change out what was there to match "the Tech Info Manual" just because it was in there and I was hoping for some real world data. I appreciate your help.
Joe

[Jim D.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Thanks Jim. Do your bottom two screws look like the shorter black screws I have in the photo, or are they longer? The shorter ones look almost like mini lag screws with a pointed end.

joe

The bottom screws are like the outside screws in your picture. The uppers are like the inside ones only chromed.

Jim

[John H.]

Re: 1965 Headlight Trim Bezel Hardware

Thanks John. The other bolt does have what you describe. Do you know if these are still available?

Joe -

Long Island has them, and I'm sure the others do too.