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  • Ken K.
    Expired
    • May 31, 1999
    • 235

    Salvage Titles - Removing

    I have a question about a "Salvage Title." I'm looking to buy a 1966 vehicle, (Not a Corvette) with a salvage title. It was brought to the scrape yard many years ago because of a fire under the hood. It was repaired and titled with a "Salvage" title. My question is, can that salvage title be cleared/removed? Is there a way or a service that can take that salvage title and turn it into a regular title? I'm in Ohio. (Maybe title the car in a different state that doesn't have salvages titles, then retitle it in Ohio??)

    The other question: Is a vehicle with a "Salvage" title worth less and/or is it less desirable with this type of title?

    Ken
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

    It used to be real easy to "wash" a title thru one of the deep Southern states, but from what I understand today, it is impossible. To answer you question about value, the salvage devalues a vehicle somewhat
    Dick Whittington

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    • Tom H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 1, 1993
      • 3440

      #3
      Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

      I don't believe one can legally be changed once it has been issued as salvage.

      On a 66 model, it may not hurt the value if it's a low end vehicle. It depends on what it is. I would be very cautious about having big money in one with a salvage title though.
      Tom Hendricks
      Proud Member NCRS #23758
      NCM Founding Member # 1143
      Corvette Department Manager and
      Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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      • Paul J.
        Expired
        • September 9, 2008
        • 2091

        #4
        Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

        Ken, I agree with Dick and Tom. The car has a salvage title because it was totalled at some point. Unfortunately, insurance companies these days will total cars that are not that seriously damaged. They are totalled because they will cost too much to repair in relation to the value of the car (I can't remember the percentages). It does impact the value.

        Paul

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        • Rich G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 2002
          • 1396

          #5
          Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

          Register it in NY. Cars that old don't get titles. You get a "transferrable" registration. There's no place on the registration to indicate "salvage"

          Rich
          1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
          1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
          1963 Corvair Monza Convertible

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11608

            #6
            Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

            Originally posted by Rich Gianotti (38594)
            Register it in NY. Cars that old don't get titles. You get a "transferrable" registration. There's no place on the registration to indicate "salvage"

            Rich
            ... until you bring it to a "salvage title" state and the salvage is resurrected again.

            Yes, that is exactly what will happen. Some new owners get surprised by this.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

              Originally posted by Paul Jordan (49474)
              Ken, I agree with Dick and Tom. The car has a salvage title because it was totalled at some point. Unfortunately, insurance companies these days will total cars that are not that seriously damaged. They are totalled because they will cost too much to repair in relation to the value of the car (I can't remember the percentages). It does impact the value.

              Paul
              75% of value to repair
              Dick Whittington

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              • Rich G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 2002
                • 1396

                #8
                Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                Patrick

                As I was typing that I thought that might be the case. He could always just move to NY. It's not a bad place if you like to pay taxes

                Rich
                1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
                1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
                1963 Corvair Monza Convertible

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15573

                  #9
                  Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                  Automobile registration is now (in most states) checked against a national data base. The sort of "washing" you are looking for was done far too often with stolen vehicles and enough people got burned by it that a national data base was started.

                  There was a thread on here and Corvette Forum about a year ago about an early Corvette that had the same serial number show up on different cars in two different states. It was caught, unfortunately the real car was the second to the finish line, by that database. A lot of collectors went through a lot of trouble to establish the legitimacy of the real car. The fake car quietly faded out of sight -- but it is still out there ready to bite some poor unsuspecting soul, or someone who believes in a deal that is too good to be true.
                  Terry

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                  • Domenic T.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2010
                    • 2452

                    #10
                    Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                    Ken,
                    I just had a similar post a few days ago and found out that the state issues a state vin.
                    My vette was not worth fixing back in 71 and I bought it. It was either stolen or put out for salvage.
                    My vin is the same with exception of the state code at the back CA.
                    In California the vin tags were removed and my new one was welded to my frame using the same #s but adding the CA at the back.
                    NOW a few on this forum feel that my car is not real (fake) because the vin tags were removed and the new one welded on. I couldn't believe what I was reading.
                    I say go with your mission and if you decide to sell it, don't sell it to one that down grades it, especially to make theirs or another look better. Keep it or sell it to some one that is intellegent enough to recognize what you have.
                    You will take a hit but it was a car once and can look beter than it ever did again.

                    DOM

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                    • William H.
                      Expired
                      • January 11, 2010
                      • 65

                      #11
                      Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                      If a car in KY is removed from the tax records because you don't want to pay taxes on it while it sit in your garage when you go back to lic it you will get a rebuilt title . Ky taxes all personal proprety.

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                      • Ronald L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • October 18, 2009
                        • 3248

                        #12
                        Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                        This national registry is non other than NICB that is talked about in another thread having to do with the data soon to be forthcoming. They have the records and there, after the fact is where these get caught up, one database, different rules on what you get and how you are taxed.

                        Come to MI, it is the car state, and not bad after a couple million left Every ten years you pay for the classic plate, equated to about $15 a year.

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                        • Edward M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • November 1, 1985
                          • 1916

                          #13
                          Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                          Originally posted by Ronald Lovelace (50931)
                          This national registry is non other than NICB that is talked about in another thread having to do with the data soon to be forthcoming. They have the records and there, after the fact is where these get caught up, one database, different rules on what you get and how you are taxed.

                          Come to MI, it is the car state, and not bad after a couple million left Every ten years you pay for the classic plate, equated to about $15 a year.
                          Actually, I belive that Terry is talking about the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System (NMVTIS). This program is now the law of the land in all 50 states as of 1 Jan 2010. NMVTIS requires that any motor vehicle changing ownership, regardless of year of manufacture, be entered into the NVMTIS database. Both of my 56 Corvettes appear in the database, even though Alabama doesn't issue titles for 1974 and older cars.

                          The NVMTIS database also contains a field call the "vehicle brands".

                          Vehicle Brands
                          "Brands" define the status of a vehicle such as "theft, flood, salvage, rebuilt, kit" and are not lost when the vehicle travels from state to state.

                          It was NVMTIS that caught the duplicate VIN numbers for a couple of early Corvettes. Since the VIN was registered in one state, the second state refused to issue a title. Eventually the issue was resolved and the real car was issued a title.

                          Just to make sure you know this, washing titles is illegal, and a felony in the few states that I have owned motor vehicles in. I suspect it is illegal in every state.

                          I continue to be amazed that people will openly discuss, and some times even admit to, having committed a crime on a public forum. The most interesting one I have seen so far is the guy who posted his process (with pictures) for recycling old Chevrolet VIN tags.

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15573

                            #14
                            Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                            Thank you Ed. That is exactly what I was thinking of. I just can't keep up with all these acronyms now days.
                            Terry

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                            • Domenic T.
                              Expired
                              • January 29, 2010
                              • 2452

                              #15
                              Re: Salvage Titles - Removing

                              I'm running out the door now and will click in later but have to ask this.

                              This may sound crazy but can you legaly get a copy of your original's if they were removed? I would like to fill the holes where mine were removed when I got the state issued vin.

                              Also what would happen if your tags were damaged on your own vette?

                              If so what do you think one would need?

                              DOM

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