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  • Jim K.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 2000
    • 554

    67 Coupe windshield molding install help

    Man oh man is this driving me crazy. I put in new glass, rubber and clips, had the original trim polished (guy in Fall River, MA - awesome job) and am having a hell of a time. Used 3M glazing goop (black, never hardens) between the outter lip of rubber and the glass AND outside between the rubber and frame (where the clips are). Can get the pass side, side to sit perfectly, but the pass front middle seems to be too far forward and I can't get the clips to grab; pass corner lower too far away from the body. Drivers side lower corner perfect, but lower middle same as pass side; driver side, side clips won't grab and hold to the body. the top just plain old won't seat fully across the board. upper corners, no problem. I dented up the top piece and had to have it re-re-done. First try was cloth wrapped block of wood and a mallet, but the dents came so I made a tool out of a 1" wide putty knife to grab the clip and hold it open to try to press the trim in, but not quite getting it. Now I think I'm getting hung up on the last nub of the clips so I'm thinking of cutting some strips of aluminum flashing and place them in the clips with a tab toward the center of the glass then press the trim in and pull the tab strips out so I can get by the nub.... any pointers???
  • Domenic T.
    Expired
    • January 29, 2010
    • 2452

    #2
    Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

    Jim,
    I feel for ya. I did my 67 windshield back in the 70's and what a bear. You might have to remove it and start all over untill it looks like a fit then push the molding on by hand.
    I used the string method and 2 guys on the outside and it went in easily, BUT I did it another way that probably will be shot down, but worked wonderfully.
    I only sprayed silicone on the rubber and all areas of contact and it pulled in level. Then I injected the sealer between the window and rubber and the rubber and rail.
    I used a piece of hard nylon ( model airplane prop) to open the area as I squeezed the sealer in behind it while pulling the nylon prop around the window.
    There was an excellent post on the way you did it that you probably already saw.
    I am getting up the nerve to re-install mine shortly as I removed it in my frame up.
    OH, I forgot PRAY also.

    DOM

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    • Page C.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1979
      • 802

      #3
      Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

      Hi Jim,
      The clips of today are a pain. Whether they are NOS are good repros, most are not made like the originals that had a "shoe feature" that let the molding slide into the clip. These new style clips reguire you to get the molding bead over two right angle steel tabs.
      The way I had best success was to take a junk piece of molding and cut about a 2 to 3 inch piece. Then try it in each of the clips (except the corners) to make sure it would clip in. With a short piece, you can slid it out of clips,and around the windshield channel to make sure nothing is preventing the molding from seating.
      Regards,
      Page Campbell

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      • Joe R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1976
        • 4547

        #4
        Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

        I feel for you guys as I have been there and done that more times than I would like to remember. My first effort included using a large rubber hammer that destroyed several lower pieces of stainless. Slow learner!

        Here is what I have learned thru the years. The clips, original or not are junk cause of the rust. Get them out.

        There are many people who sell clips but Paragon is the only company that has clips that work, time after time.

        Order 11044K-25 for the Coupe $51.00 list
        Order 11044K-11 for the Conv. $18.00 list

        And don't forget the screw kit.

        Order 119K-27 for the Coupe $10.00
        Order 119K-11 for the Conv. $ 4.00

        And they do give discounts for NCRS members

        These kits above are made in the USA and they WORK!!!!!!

        JR

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        • Doug F.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 1, 1983
          • 322

          #5
          Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

          i hope Joe is correct, there has been a need for correct clips forever, another trick i use is to double up the clips near the corners and ends, that way if one fails or you screw one up you have backup without having to pull the windshield back out

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1976
            • 4547

            #6
            Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

            Hey I know Jim and Gail too well! I would have to pay if I gave them bad advise!

            And yes, doubling up on the clips would be a good idea but I have not found it necessary.

            I started screwing up stainless when all you had to do was order another piece from GM and hit it again.

            Also, I have always waited and sealed the WS after installation with a high pressure gun. Cuts down on the mess!

            JR

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            • Domenic T.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2010
              • 2452

              #7
              Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

              Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
              Hey I know Jim and Gail too well! I would have to pay if I gave them bad advise!

              And yes, doubling up on the clips would be a good idea but I have not found it necessary.

              I started screwing up stainless when all you had to do was order another piece from GM and hit it again.

              Also, I have always waited and sealed the WS after installation with a high pressure gun. Cuts down on the mess!

              JR
              I agree 100% With Joe and when the windshield won't fit in it's place it can be that sealer is between the rubber and the glass making it impossible to fit properly.
              I had to wipe one clean and start over again because of that. I choose to seal after the fit is made. And I like something slippery on it like silicone spray or even dish soap while installing the window. Also because of the design they will crack easier when removing than installation. AND still PRAY a lot.

              DOM

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              • Paul Y.
                Very Frequent User
                • September 30, 1982
                • 570

                #8
                Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

                I made a ball out of dum dum to use instead of a rubber hammer and have not damaged a moulding since. It can be a little smaller than a baseball and you can reuse it as dum dum if you like. I keep mine wrapped up in a rag while using it and storing it. Better than your hand and a lot more efficient also. I too seal the windshield after the mouldings are installed.
                It's a good life!














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                • Jim K.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • August 31, 2000
                  • 554

                  #9
                  Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

                  Thanks JR!!! We miss you at that other place! I have had some better luck with the Shim idea (that is to cut small strips of thin aluminum from roofing flashing - but a beer can would work - and sink them into the very bottom of the clip, then bend it to the glass. Once the trim is in and pressed firmly in place, pull the strip out and 90% of the thime it has worked) I'm finding that the end of the trim where it laps in the center, that the part of the trim that goes in the clip is bent and it is taking some trial and error, but I think with some patience and time, I'll have it back on this week... AND NO HAMMER! but I like the dum-dum ball idea
                  Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
                  Hey I know Jim and Gail too well! I would have to pay if I gave them bad advise!

                  And yes, doubling up on the clips would be a good idea but I have not found it necessary.

                  I started screwing up stainless when all you had to do was order another piece from GM and hit it again.

                  Also, I have always waited and sealed the WS after installation with a high pressure gun. Cuts down on the mess!

                  JR

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                  • Jim K.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 31, 2000
                    • 554

                    #10
                    Re: 67 Coupe windshield molding install help

                    Originally posted by Jim & Gail Kennedy (34763)
                    Now I think I'm getting hung up on the last nub of the clips so I'm thinking of cutting some strips of aluminum flashing and place them in the clips with a tab toward the center of the glass then press the trim in and pull the tab strips out so I can get by the nub.... any pointers???
                    This is working!!! I have had to "adjust" the part that the clips grab onto and have but in abd pulled all the strips out 1 by 1 about 4 times for the first peice, but it is working, I wish I thought of this a month ago...

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