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  • Scott S.
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    • September 11, 2009
    • 1961

    Clip Identification please (1967)

    1967

    This clip was in a bag labeled "Wiper Motor", it appears to be broken so I was going to replace it, but I don't see it in the 1967 AIM (1BoltWeld-A5 or 1ASM-D3) unless it's the wiper motor push rod retainer clip shown in 1ASM-D3, Item 3 (GM 4766184). The LIC website photo of this retainer (LIC 08-42, Paragon 12411) shows a clip that looks exactly like the Brake Pedal Clevis Pin Retainer (UPC 5-A2, Item 13, GM 3817880) (LIC 28-35, Paragon 11568).

    Neither one looks like the clip in the pictures below, and I haven't found a clip matching the pictures below on any of the usual vendor sites. It is stamped "T" along one edge (picture #4).
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  • Stephen L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1984
    • 3148

    #2
    Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

    I believe that is the clip that goes on the stub shaft that drives the wiper arms. Circled in the photo.
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    • Scott S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 11, 2009
      • 1961

      #3
      Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

      Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
      I believe that is the clip that goes on the stub shaft that drives the wiper arms. Circled in the photo.
      Thanks for the reply and the picture Stephen. I think the clip you're referencing is the one shown in 1ASM-D3, Item 3 (GM 4766184). I would like to find out if the clip I have is a correct original, in which case I suspect LIC and Paragon have both substituted a common clip (brake pedal clevis pin retainer clip) for an uncommon and not reproduced clip (wiper motor), or whether I had the incorrect wiper motor clip to begin with.

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      • Michael G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 1, 1997
        • 1251

        #4
        Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

        Guys,

        As GM had numerous suppliers unsure if yours is an original Scott....very well maybe. Keep in mind the retainer clip at that location needs the ability to slid into grooves on the end of the wiper motor stub shaft. The one your showing doesn't appear to have that capability.

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        • Scott S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 11, 2009
          • 1961

          #5
          Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

          Originally posted by Michael Gill (28614)
          Guys,

          As GM had numerous suppliers unsure if yours is an original Scott....very well maybe. Keep in mind the retainer clip at that location needs the ability to slid into grooves on the end of the wiper motor stub shaft. The one your showing doesn't appear to have that capability.
          Hi Mike,

          I just checked, and it fits like it was born there (pics 1-3), but when we took the car apart I discovered that the original wiper motor had been replaced at some point with a similar looking (but incorrect) wiper motor (picture 4). The restored wiper motor is the correct model.
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          • Michael G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 1, 1997
            • 1251

            #6
            Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

            Replacement of the motor may explain the clip.

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            • Scott S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 11, 2009
              • 1961

              #7
              Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

              Originally posted by Michael Gill (28614)
              Replacement of the motor may explain the clip.
              It might, or the original clip might have been kept and re-used when the original wiper motor was swapped out. I'm swapping back in a correct 1967 Corvette wiper motor. Problem is I don't know what an original GM 4766184 wiper retainer clip looks like (1ASM-D3, Item 3, "Retainer").

              The brake pedal clevis pin retainer clip that was on the car for many years (UPC 5-A2, Item 13, GM 3817880) looks just like the clip the Vendors show for the brake pedal clevis pin retainer, and the Vendors show the same clip for the wiper motor, but sometimes Vendors are sneaky like that when they don't have an original configuration part.

              I suspect that if the same clip was originally used in both places, then it would be the same part with the same part number.

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              • Domenic T.
                Expired
                • January 29, 2010
                • 2452

                #8
                Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                Scott,
                I have 2 C-2 wiper motors on the bench that I just finished and the clip is different than the one in your picture.

                Would you believe I took this pic and did not include the clip in the photo.

                I can have a picture for you of the 2 original clips in the tomorrow AM if ypu would like.

                DOM
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                • Scott S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 11, 2009
                  • 1961

                  #9
                  Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                  Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                  Scott,
                  I have 2 C-2 wiper motors on the bench that I just finished and the clip is different than the one in your picture.

                  Would you believe I took this pic and did not include the clip in the photo.

                  I can have a picture for you of the 2 original clips in the tomorrow AM if ypu would like.

                  DOM
                  Great picture Dom, I have not seen one of these apart before. If you could post pictures of the clips tomorrow or whenever you get a chance that would be very helpful. Half the battle is figuring out how the car is supposed to be. The other half is locating the correct parts and making it happen. Very hard to do the second part without doing the first part (first)

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                  • Domenic T.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2010
                    • 2452

                    #10
                    Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                    Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
                    1967

                    This clip was in a bag labeled "Wiper Motor", it appears to be broken so I was going to replace it, but I don't see it in the 1967 AIM (1BoltWeld-A5 or 1ASM-D3) unless it's the wiper motor push rod retainer clip shown in 1ASM-D3, Item 3 (GM 4766184). The LIC website photo of this retainer (LIC 08-42, Paragon 12411) shows a clip that looks exactly like the Brake Pedal Clevis Pin Retainer (UPC 5-A2, Item 13, GM 3817880) (LIC 28-35, Paragon 11568).

                    Neither one looks like the clip in the pictures below, and I haven't found a clip matching the pictures below on any of the usual vendor sites. It is stamped "T" along one edge (picture #4).
                    Scott,
                    Here are the pics of a 63 & 67 windshield wiper / washer I just finished.

                    Also a pic of the clip upsidedown, and another inplace.

                    LICorvette section 8-42 has it for a buck if you need one . I looked for a extra in the shop for you with no luck.
                    If you order don't forget to get a new rubber spacer 8-41.

                    DOM

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                    • Scott S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 11, 2009
                      • 1961

                      #11
                      Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                      Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                      Scott,
                      Here are the pics of a 63 & 67 windshield wiper / washer I just finished.

                      Also a pic of the clip upsidedown, and another inplace.

                      LICorvette section 8-42 has it for a buck if you need one . I looked for a extra in the shop for you with no luck.
                      If you order don't forget to get a new rubber spacer 8-41.

                      DOM
                      Hi Dom,

                      I can't see the pics, but if they look like LIC 08-42 then I know what you're talking about. It has been throwing me off because it looks identical to the brake pedal clevis pin retainer clip which the Vendors also sell. I was guessing the brake pedal clip was common to many cars for many decades but the wiper motor clip was uncommon (and not reproduced), so the Vendors were selling the brake clip as a functional substitute for the wiper motor clip. That seems not to be the case.

                      I'm not sure why both clips appear identical and yet have different part numbers in the AIM.

                      Thanks for the reminder about the rubber spacer,

                      Scott

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                      • Domenic T.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2010
                        • 2452

                        #12
                        Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                        Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
                        Hi Dom,

                        I can't see the pics, but if they look like LIC 08-42 then I know what you're talking about. It has been throwing me off because it looks identical to the brake pedal clevis pin retainer clip which the Vendors also sell. I was guessing the brake pedal clip was common to many cars for many decades but the wiper motor clip was uncommon (and not reproduced), so the Vendors were selling the brake clip as a functional substitute for the wiper motor clip. That seems not to be the case.

                        I'm not sure why both clips appear identical and yet have different part numbers in the AIM.

                        Thanks for the reminder about the rubber spacer,

                        Scott
                        Sorry,
                        I forgot to add them.

                        DOM
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                        • Scott S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • September 11, 2009
                          • 1961

                          #13
                          Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                          Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                          Sorry,
                          I forgot to add them.

                          DOM
                          Thanks Dom!

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #14
                            Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                            Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
                            1967

                            This clip was in a bag labeled "Wiper Motor", it appears to be broken so I was going to replace it, but I don't see it in the 1967 AIM (1BoltWeld-A5 or 1ASM-D3) unless it's the wiper motor push rod retainer clip shown in 1ASM-D3, Item 3 (GM 4766184). The LIC website photo of this retainer (LIC 08-42, Paragon 12411) shows a clip that looks exactly like the Brake Pedal Clevis Pin Retainer (UPC 5-A2, Item 13, GM 3817880) (LIC 28-35, Paragon 11568).

                            Neither one looks like the clip in the pictures below, and I haven't found a clip matching the pictures below on any of the usual vendor sites. It is stamped "T" along one edge (picture #4).
                            Scott -

                            The clip in your four photos is the correct (Tinnerman) special retainer clip for the wiper linkage arm attachment at the wiper motor drive pin; it's distinctly different from the other retainers shown, which are for the brake pedal clevis-to-pedal arm pin.

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                            • Scott S.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • September 11, 2009
                              • 1961

                              #15
                              Re: Clip Identification please (1967)

                              Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                              Scott -

                              The clip in your four photos is the correct (Tinnerman) special retainer clip for the wiper linkage arm attachment at the wiper motor drive pin; it's distinctly different from the other retainers shown, which are for the brake pedal clevis-to-pedal arm pin.
                              Thanks John, I will be sure to save it for reference purposes. I would re-use it, but unless it was designed with that break across one of the "legs", it probably ought to be replaced.

                              Is the correct Tinnerman special retainer clip available anywhere, and if not, is the brake pedal clevis-to-pedal arm pin retainer a sufficient functional substitute at the wiper motor drive pin position?

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