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  • Larry M.
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    • March 1, 2002
    • 62

    1966 Build date confusion

    Planing on having my car flight judged in the spring. Today I was checking build dates. Car was built on 12-15-65. Engine pad said engine was built on 12-8-65. Checked starter and it has a 5M9 date (12-9-65)? Talked to previous owners of the car, and was told its the original starter. Does anyone knows what could have happened? Will this be a deduction in points at judging? Thanks Larry....
  • Tom H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1993
    • 3440

    #2
    Re: 1966 Build date confusion

    Unless I'm missing something, I think you are OK.
    Tom Hendricks
    Proud Member NCRS #23758
    NCM Founding Member # 1143
    Corvette Department Manager and
    Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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    • Ronald L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • October 18, 2009
      • 3248

      #3
      Re: 1966 Build date confusion

      I had one built 12/13. That date to me is very normal for these early 427's.

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      • Jack H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1990
        • 9906

        #4
        Re: 1966 Build date confusion

        Why do you find these dates a problem?

        Look at your copy of the AIM and you'll see the starter (and a number of other engine bolt-on components) were installed at St. Louis versus shipping with the engine from either Flint or Tonawanda...

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        • Larry M.
          Expired
          • March 1, 2002
          • 62

          #5
          Re: 1966 Build date confusion

          Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
          Why do you find these dates a problem?

          Look at your copy of the AIM and you'll see the starter (and a number of other engine bolt-on components) were installed at St. Louis versus shipping with the engine from either Flint or Tonawanda...
          I did not know the starters were bolted on after in St. Louis. Thanks for the info Jack. Larry......

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          • Rob M.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 30, 2003
            • 657

            #6
            Re: 1966 Build date confusion

            Larry,

            My car's starter is dated May 2nd, 1966 and the car came off the line on the 6th! As far as I know, it's original to the car and haven't had any issues during judging.

            Cheers
            Rob

            '66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
            '08 6 speed coupe

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 1, 1993
              • 15610

              #7
              Re: 1966 Build date confusion

              Originally posted by Larry Mucci (37593)
              Planing on having my car flight judged in the spring. Today I was checking build dates. Car was built on 12-15-65. Engine pad said engine was built on 12-8-65. Checked starter and it has a 5M9 date (12-9-65)? Talked to previous owners of the car, and was told its the original starter. Does anyone knows what could have happened? Will this be a deduction in points at judging? Thanks Larry....
              The "car build date" you mention is likely the body build date off the trim tag unless you have a copy of the actual production order with the final assembly date, which could be one to several days later than the body build date.

              Duke

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              • Larry M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 2002
                • 62

                #8
                Re: 1966 Build date confusion

                Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                The "car build date" you mention is likely the body build date off the trim tag unless you have a copy of the actual production order with the final assembly date, which could be one to several days later than the body build date.

                Duke
                Yes I have info saying the body build date is Dec. 7, 1965 and the final assembly date is Dec. 15, 1965. Thanks Duke for the info. Larry....

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                • Jack H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1990
                  • 9906

                  #9
                  Re: 1966 Build date confusion

                  Things to be careful of:

                  (1) The body build date reflects when the body was built...NOT the finished car.

                  (2) On mid-year cars, AO Smith supplied about half of the bodies and it took time for the body to travel from Michigan to St. Louis.

                  (3) Then, since there was very little 'spare' room in the plant to warehouse completed bodies, the convenience of the AOS bodies sitting on rail cars outside presented an attractive way to temporarily store finished bodies...

                  (4) As John Hinckley has taught us, a given body might have re-cycled through the paint shop for some time before QA/QC folks deemed it correct and ready to proceed forward to the final assy line and the trim tag went on when the body STARTED its build...

                  So, it's always best to look at the car's actual VIN and work backwards to the actual assy date vs. going by the date on the trim tag!!!

                  Last, while this isn't a 100% correct/universal rule, IF you see a given part called out in the AIM for assy, that means it was installed at St. Louis vs. being part of a larger sub-assy like the engine coming in from Flint/Tonawanda...

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                  • Michael H.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2008
                    • 7477

                    #10
                    Re: 1966 Build date confusion

                    Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
                    (4) As John Hinckley has taught us, a given body might have re-cycled through the paint shop for some time before QA/QC folks deemed it correct and ready to proceed forward to the final assy line and the trim tag went on when the body STARTED its build...

                    ...
                    Jack,

                    I don't know for sure about Smith bodies but for St Louis, the trim/VIN tags were installed after the body paint operation was nearly completed. Once the trim and VIN tags were installed, the body was locked in sequence.

                    For St Louis bodies, the car would have been completed the same day or the next working day.

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