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  • Ralph P.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 1990
    • 253

    67 Alternator Rotor Color

    Need some advice how to obtain & apply the correct "red" coating to a replacement rotor ??
  • Wayne M.
    Expired
    • March 1, 1980
    • 6414

    #2
    Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

    Originally posted by Ralph Phillips (11581)
    Need some advice how to obtain & apply the correct "red" coating to a replacement rotor ??
    Ralph -- You must mean "stator", as you can't see any part of the rotor when alternator is on the car. Further, you're probably referring to the alternator (stator) windings. The '65 TIM&JG refers to a "clear to dark caramel colored coating which darkens in color with heat". You'd have to tell us in more detail [for us non-67 types] what the '67 manual calls for.

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    • Ralph P.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1990
      • 253

      #3
      Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

      Thanks, Wayne.... I think the stator and rotor were originally coated with that substance . There was a past reference to this coating being possibly available at electrical supply service companies . I haven't been able to find it locally..... wonder if anyone has found it on the web ?

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      • Wayne M.
        Expired
        • March 1, 1980
        • 6414

        #4
        Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

        Ralph -- here's an NOS stator 1959531, used on 55 amp air cars '63-5 w/o TI. No evidence of anything red. Perhaps what the '67 JM meant is that the copper color shows through the clear coating on the windings, and this might appear to be red.
        Attached Files

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

          I believe the coating was Gyptol (sp)
          Dick Whittington

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          • Ralph P.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 1990
            • 253

            #6
            Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

            Thanks, Dick.... Gyptol could be it; but, I thought it was more like a varnish substance ? Isn't Gyptol a paint?

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            • Ridge K.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 2006
              • 1018

              #7
              Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

              Ralph, here's a technical web description of the product (Glyptal).

              Perhaps you can click onto it (the product number) and acquire additonal data.

              1201
              Red Alkyd (Brush/Spray/Dip). Bake or air dry. Meets MIL-E22118; used for coils, armatures and other electrical apparatus. Also used as a primer, sealer for screws, pipes, vacuum systems and hydraulic fluid chambers
              Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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              • Wayne M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1980
                • 6414

                #8
                Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                I believe the coating was Gyptol (sp)

                Dick -- Yes, per How-to Hotrod BB Chevs, "Glyptal is made by General Electric for coating electric windings in generators and electric motors". I believe the pic below shows this paint (orange enamel) applied under the timing cover (on this motor, anyway) and (for sure) in the lifter valley area to speed oil drainback to the sump.

                But I can't imagine that Delco Remy put this stuff anywhere on alternators.

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                • Jack H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1990
                  • 9906

                  #9
                  Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                  67 JG text is somewhat similar:

                  "Insulation on both the alternator windings and the laminated metal plates separating the alternator case halves is a clear to dark caramel colored coating."

                  I believe the 'strange/unique' substance is shellac. This is a common insulating coating for copper wires used in motor/transformer/inductor windings. The object is to electrically isolate adjacent windings without increasing winding space (as a conventional plastic coating would do).

                  The same is true of laminated magnetic cores. Keep airborne moisture from getting between the plates and corroding/oxidizing them...

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                  • Ralph P.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 1, 1990
                    • 253

                    #10
                    Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                    Ridge, this looks exactly like what I need !
                    Thanks

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                      I'se confused
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Jack H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1990
                        • 9906

                        #12
                        Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                        Ditto, Dickie! I think he clicked the wrong thread in the sequence to chime in on...

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                        • Alan D.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 1, 2005
                          • 2027

                          #13
                          Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                          Here is an original alternator with the finish similar to Wayne's Think it may be a 69 unit however you should check the pn.
                          Attached Files

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                          • Ralph P.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • February 1, 1990
                            • 253

                            #14
                            Re: 67 Alternator Rotor Color

                            Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                            I'se confused
                            Sorry Dick.... Ridge was my target !

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