I have to laugh at the other forum for even considering this company as a supporting vendor! http://www.oldchevydocumentation.com/ Perhaps they will get a Block stamping company next!
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Isn't it amazing how almost all of the big blocks for sale these days now have all the factory documentation/tank stickers (aged) and window stickers. Most of this stuff got tossed along with the air pumps and ignition shielding back when they were new.Comment
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Mark, I would never have them do this for me, but the way I understand the NCRS judging process it is okay. For NCRS, a car must look as it did the day it came off of the assembly line. Fake all the way through or not! Now to be sold to someone as 100% original is a different story. That is plain unethical. And to get the big bucks from someone that doesn't know a thing about it, is highway robbery. Just my two cents.Comment
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I totally agree. There are very few Corvettes out there that were hermetically sealed in the 60's with all the stickers, documentation, and bits and pieces that they originally came with. They were just cool transportation then. Most of the Corvettes that cross the block at BJ are recreations. I have no problem with someone wanting to recreate a brand new Corvette. It's not for me, I like to drive mine too much, but to each his own. The evil thing is to represent the car as original when selling it and not advising the prospective buyer about what you've done.Comment
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"If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig"
The NCRS is comprised overwhelmingly of Corvette "hobbyists", most of whom have long run (a) business(es) connected with their "hobby". Over more recent years, we have had an annual membership of about 13,0000-15,0000, with a moderately sized core of long-termers and a relatively small percentage of transients. There are a lot of people who move in-and-out of the NCRS; these are the people who have recently retired, find themselves with time on their hands, and who are looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The proof of the NCRS's symbiosis with used car salesmen had become even more apparent since our affiliation with that most reprehensible of feeding frenzies, Barrett-Jackson.
I have to give credit to the people on the Corvette Forum, because they are also Corvette lovers, some of whom make make no bones about their desire to capitalize on their passion (openly advertise on the Forum). Overall, a much higher percentage of the CF guys and gals modify, race, and drive their cars rather than treat them as commodities for bid. In short....................the folks populating the Corvette Forum are not in denial, as most of the NCRS crowd is. I believe that this denial is the basis for much of the resentment that some Forum members hold against NCRS types. Conversely, there are many in the NCRS crowd (such as you, Mark) who look condescendingly down their noses at the "unwashed" Corvette Forum folks ("If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig").
Face it, Mark. You are in the company of the largest group of used Corvette salesmen on the planet. Any time you volunteer to donate your time as a judge, you are actually performing a free evaluation service for those used car salesmen who are looking to replenish stock..............Comment
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Hello Mark;
Your post raises another value of our NCRS "Historical Document Services".
Reading the online ads of oldchevydocumentation it is interesting to note the poor grammar, spacing, and other mistakes by a company selling "accurate documents".
Just my 2 cents.
Ray
And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
I hope you dance
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I'd just like to say 'Hi' to everyone on the CF that's reading this!
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Knowing that there are folks out there that want these documents for various reasons previously stated here, I would think that NCRS would initiate a service to provide them. Then there could be a data base that future purchasers etc., of these cars could access to determine the authenticity, or lack of, to help eliminate some/most of the issues that arise from an uncontrolled or unmonitored supplier of said documents.Comment
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I guess I don't get your point. A fake is a fake is a fake. Why would I gain a sudden appreciation for it (or fake documentation) because there is a new owner? What would you suggest with respect to fakes frauds and forgeries (cars and those who create them)?Comment
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Mark, you've been an NCRS member for 2 whole months now and whether you realized it or not, you took a shot at not just CF members but NCRS members too. You see there are many of us that are long time members of both forums so keep your cheap shots to yourself. Ok? If you have a problem with a vendor or product, by all means speak up, but why take a shot at another forum. I can assure you that over the years the NCRS has had it's fair amount of poor vendors advertising in our publications.Comment
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