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  • Dean S.
    Expired
    • December 15, 2010
    • 68

    Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

    Is it advised after a complete restoration to reset the odometer to zero? Points in judging affected?
  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #2
    Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

    Originally posted by Dean Sklar (52565)
    Is it advised after a complete restoration to reset the odometer to zero? Points in judging affected?
    Dean -

    Set it wherever you like - judging isn't affected.

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    • Dennis O.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1988
      • 438

      #3
      Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

      My car had 73K original miles (as far as I can see, it was correct; the ensuing frame-off seemed to confirm this), so I left it alone.

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      • Anthony P.
        Expired
        • June 27, 2010
        • 485

        #4
        Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

        Question on this. I thought that if you reset the existing odometer (at least for the C1's) or if it was tampered with, that it would show up between the odometer numbers. Is that true?

        When I did my resto this past winter I just left it alone.

        Thanks,

        Tony

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        • Dan M.
          Expired
          • March 6, 2009
          • 157

          #5
          Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

          Many states track odometer readings on titles and such at times of transfer. To reset the odometer may bring up some questions from DMV. Not suggesting it's illegal, but my thoughts are it is what it is and just keep adding to it is the way to go.

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          • Domenic T.
            Expired
            • January 29, 2010
            • 2452

            #6
            Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

            Originally posted by Dan Murphy (50175)
            Many states track odometer readings on titles and such at times of transfer. To reset the odometer may bring up some questions from DMV. Not suggesting it's illegal, but my thoughts are it is what it is and just keep adding to it is the way to go.
            It is illegal to do so and the now get you when you sell BUT who is going to complain and turn you in?

            What if your speedo broke and you bought a used one?

            When i was a mechanic the sales dept had me FIX the speedo to read the #s they wanted it to read.

            When I questioned them they just had another mechanic pull the speedo and they gave it to me to FIX.

            They said it was out of the junk yard and had to reflect the milage of the car that had the bad speedo.

            Didn't mean to much for most cars but the speedo's were Rolls and other high dollar cars.

            DOM

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            • Gene M.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1985
              • 4232

              #7
              Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

              I was told that some states approve zero-ing out the odometer when a full restoration is performed. I don't know if this is fact or not. I tend to think not.

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              • Jim D.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 1985
                • 2882

                #8
                Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                Many states, including Washington, don't track the mileage on cars over 10-15 years old. On the title/registration under "Mileage", they put "Exempt".

                Jim

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                • Paul J.
                  Expired
                  • September 9, 2008
                  • 2091

                  #9
                  Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                  As Jim said, there is a time limit which excludes older cars. You can check with your DMV if it bothers you.

                  Dean, do what you want. My 64 presently shows 44,444 on an odometer that has'nt worked in 35 years. I will be zeroing out the mileage so I can track the miles after the restoration (after all, the car will effectively be brand new). Since the actual mileage is unknown, it doesn't matter. Which leads me to the question: Are you absolutely sure of the actual mileage? If not, then it doesn't matter.

                  Paul

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                  • Patrick S.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • January 1, 1988
                    • 209

                    #10
                    Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                    When I had my gauges done I left the odometer as it was because the milage is consistant with the previous titles.

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                    • Michael W.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1997
                      • 4290

                      #11
                      Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                      Being that a restoration is simply a collection of repairs done during an abbreviated time frame, why would the odo be reset to zero? It's not a 'new' car by any stretch of the imagination.

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                      • Michael B.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1999
                        • 178

                        #12
                        Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                        after a complete restoration I left mine as is. I think the ministry in Ontario would consider this as tampering and they do keep the previously recorded mileage.

                        And Michael, I agree, after restoration is it nothing like it was new ...
                        ... far better.

                        Cheers.


                        Michael B.

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                        • Paul J.
                          Expired
                          • September 9, 2008
                          • 2091

                          #13
                          Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                          Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
                          Being that a restoration is simply a collection of repairs done during an abbreviated time frame, why would the odo be reset to zero? It's not a 'new' car by any stretch of the imagination.
                          In an NCRS "frame off" restoration, all parts are either replaced with new parts or parts which have been rebuilt to thier original specifications. By all engineering standards, it is new. The car looks and functions just as it did when it rolled off of the assembly line.

                          If the odometer is not correct, then why not reset it to zero (or whatever you want)? Leaving it showing some random incorrect mileage makes no sense at all.

                          Paul

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                          • Michael W.
                            Expired
                            • April 1, 1997
                            • 4290

                            #14
                            Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                            Originally posted by Paul Jordan (49474)
                            In an NCRS "frame off" restoration, all parts are either replaced with new parts or parts which have been rebuilt to thier original specifications. By all engineering standards, it is new. The car looks and functions just as it did when it rolled off of the assembly line.
                            I also doubt that any frame off is 100% stripped to it's individual detail level for inspection to start with. Are the rollers and races disassembled and inspected from each bearing? Never heard of it.

                            Overhauling something to new still doesn't make it virgin or new. Sandblasting a frame and painting it doesn't make 'as good as new' structurally. The engine case, rotating assembly or any mechanical component still has X number of operating hours and cycles on it that cannot be undone by a coat of paint so by ANY engineering standard (never mind all) the car is not equivalent to new.

                            That's why there's TSN and TSO as well as CSN and CSO in the aviation industry. Not interchangeable.

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                            • Paul J.
                              Expired
                              • September 9, 2008
                              • 2091

                              #15
                              Re: Resetting odometer to zero after restoration

                              Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
                              I also doubt that any frame off is 100% stripped to it's individual detail level for inspection to start with. Are the rollers and races disassembled and inspected from each bearing? Never heard of it.

                              No, the bearings and races are replaced. Have'nt you ever done a frame off restoration?

                              Overhauling something to new still doesn't make it virgin or new. Sandblasting a frame and painting it doesn't make 'as good as new' structurally. The engine case, rotating assembly or any mechanical component still has X number of operating hours and cycles on it that cannot be undone by a coat of paint so by ANY engineering standard (never mind all) the car is not equivalent to new.
                              There is no standard for the number of cycles on non-rotating assemblies, so it's irrelevant. If it's within spec, it's within spec.

                              Apparently you did'nt read my first post, which you attacked. I said it was "effectively brand new".

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