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  • Jerod M.
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    • March 10, 2011
    • 95

    Jack- Scarring from use okay?

    I have an original, dated jack for the '71. The jack has been used, so there is some scarring on the jack from interfacing with pavement and frame. When re-finishing the jack, do I need to blend out the scarring, or is new paint acceptable for full points? I do have the correct jack tie-down hardware and anti-rattle bumper as well. Thanks!
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

    Jerod, I would doubt that a judge would give you a deduct on the bottom of the jack showing signs of use, a correct date and configuration and finish would be of top priority, and should be intack for safety and use.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Jerod M.
      Expired
      • March 10, 2011
      • 95

      #3
      Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

      Perfect...I was hoping that minor metal displacement under the paint was acceptable. It will look like new except to the most discriminating eye.

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15573

        #4
        Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

        Originally posted by Jerod Matlock (53045)
        Perfect...I was hoping that minor metal displacement under the paint was acceptable. It will look like new except to the most discriminating eye.
        What does "minor metal displacement under the paint" mean? How about a picture so we can at least see something before we pass judgement by interned?

        Cheez. Soon we won't have to go to meets. We can sit in front of the computer and judge Corvettes.
        Terry

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        • Jerod M.
          Expired
          • March 10, 2011
          • 95

          #5
          Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

          Sure, I will post a picture! I'll let you guys judge this car over the internet as much as you are willing :-)

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

            Originally posted by Jerod Matlock (53045)
            Sure, I will post a picture! I'll let you guys judge this car over the internet as much as you are willing :-)
            Jerod, it is much more fun for both you and us to do the judging in person. It is also much more accurate and efficient to do it eyeball to eyeball. It doesn't have to be perfect for us -- in fact we get a whole lot more excited over "rough" Corvettes. I had one in Minnesota this past weekend that got me real excited -- and that doesn't happen to me too much any more. That car made the 890 mile round trip worth it for me.

            There are lots of folks in Oklahoma that would love to look at your car Jerod, and some of us love to travel. The Oklahoma Chapter folks will fix you right up. In the mean time we can "play" judging here so long as you remember pictures are a poor substitute for the real thing.
            Terry

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            • Mike E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 28, 1975
              • 5134

              #7
              Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

              I've been NCRS judging since 1977. I have yet to see a jack that came from the factory with scarring from use on the top and/or bottom. Since we judge the cars as they left the factory, I'd have a difficult time giving full credit to a jack that exhibited qualities that were not as-it-left the factory. Otherwise, the individual that has the car that is right and unscarred receives no greater credit than one with a scarred one. The degree is always a part of the equation, but the right car needs to be rewarded by deducting points on the car that is not right.
              Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
              Jerod, I would doubt that a judge would give you a deduct on the bottom of the jack showing signs of use, a correct date and configuration and finish would be of top priority, and should be intack for safety and use.

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              • Edward J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 15, 2008
                • 6940

                #8
                Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                I've been NCRS judging since 1977. I have yet to see a jack that came from the factory with scarring from use on the top and/or bottom. Since we judge the cars as they left the factory, I'd have a difficult time giving full credit to a jack that exhibited qualities that were not as-it-left the factory. Otherwise, the individual that has the car that is right and unscarred receives no greater credit than one with a scarred one. The degree is always a part of the equation, but the right car needs to be rewarded by deducting points on the car that is not right.
                Boy you guys are tough. A jack is 3 condition points so if a deduct is warrented on condition maybe 1 pt. or maybe a dot. As Terry says a little patina comes with age.
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15573

                  #9
                  Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                  Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                  Boy you guys are tough. A jack is 3 condition points so if a deduct is warrented on condition maybe 1 pt. or maybe a dot. As Terry says a little patina comes with age.
                  I obviously agree, but the question is how much is patina v scaring. Without pictures, or the chance to lay an eyeball on it neither we nor Jerod will never really know -- and that is precisely the reason I suggested he give us the chance to judge it.
                  Terry

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                  • Jerod M.
                    Expired
                    • March 10, 2011
                    • 95

                    #10
                    Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                    We will comply with the higest standard.
                    PS- Check your jacks everyone

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                    • Jerod M.
                      Expired
                      • March 10, 2011
                      • 95

                      #11
                      Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                      Give me a chance to restore the finish, and I will submit high res pictures for your good judgement. Thanks, all.

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                      • Keith L.
                        Expired
                        • April 7, 2008
                        • 378

                        #12
                        Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                        I believe what he is saying is he has repainted over the scratches and marks as opposed to it being an unrestored jack with wear marks. If repainting maybe a little "bodywork" before the paint would be in order.

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11608

                          #13
                          Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                          Originally posted by Jerod Matlock (53045)
                          Sure, I will post a picture! I'll let you guys judge this car over the internet as much as you are willing :-)
                          You keep talking about all the original parts - I'd like to see some photos to see just how original this car may be.
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Jerod M.
                            Expired
                            • March 10, 2011
                            • 95

                            #14
                            Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                            Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                            You keep talking about all the original parts - I'd like to see some photos to see just how original this car may be.
                            These are some pictures that I had close at hand showing the numbers.

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                            • Patrick H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1989
                              • 11608

                              #15
                              Re: Jack- Scarring from use okay?

                              Originally posted by Jerod Matlock (53045)
                              These are some pictures that I had close at hand showing the numbers.
                              https://picasaweb.google.com/1009697...eat=directlink
                              "Sorry, that page was not found" is what I get via your link
                              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                              71 "deer modified" coupe
                              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                              2008 coupe
                              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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