67 Conv. Body numbers ??

[Leonard C.]

Is there any evidence of the 1967 body number (s3221) being located any where on the car other than on the trim tag ? Is there another way to verify the body and vin actually match ?
What purpose did the body number serve ?

New member trying to sort out my old 67 roadster. Sorry if this should be directed to another forum.

Thanks in advance...

Len Chetti

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

If you check the archives, you will find many discussions. Seems someone asks about every week. There were four running sets of numbers. St. Louis, coupe and convertible, and AOS coupe and convertible. They were simply numbers for accounting. So for some 23000 cars there were four groups of numbers accounting for how many of the specific types of bodies were produced. The only relationship to the serial number is the relative size of the number. Early cars would naturally have a low number, and late cars would have high numbers.

[Larry M.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Is there any evidence of the 1967 body number (s3221) being located any where on the car other than on the trim tag ? Is there another way to verify the body and vin actually match ?
What purpose did the body number serve ?

New member trying to sort out my old 67 roadster. Sorry if this should be directed to another forum.

Thanks in advance...

Len Chetti

Len:

The TRIM TAG will have the BODY NUMBER and also a BODY BUILD DATE code in the upper left corner. The date code can be loosely tied to the VIN, especially for St Louis body cars. You use the VIN to get the approximate date the car was produced......and for a St Louis body, this should be within a few days of the BODY BUILD DATE on the TRIM TAG.

Post your VIN and we can correlate/check for you.

You can also go to various forums and databases and check the VIN and BODY NUMBER of your car to other similar cars. This provides another check. You can also pay someone to do this checking if you desire. There are a few folks with excellent databases. However, I normally don't recommend this for the typical owner....due to $$.

Larry

[Leonard C.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Thanks Wayne and Larry. Appreciate the help.

I've searched much of the archives and now know lots about the body numbers.

My vin # 1943677s105681 has a trim tag with E08 as the build date and s2331 as the body number. I compared this to the others (67 registry) etc. and they seem to be consistent.
The trim code of 988AA is the paint and std is the interior (Blk Vinyl)

Everything looks good for a 67 maroon conv. with blk interior. Right??

Problem is the interior was saddle when I got it (1980) and the car appears to have been green as best as I can tell. ??? (gold, burgundy and green all at one time or another ).

Thus I'm looking to confirm the maroon/black trim tag is right or wrong...
I was hoping there was the body # somewhere on the body to confirm the tag was correct.

I've owned this car for over 30 yrs..just stopped driving it long enough to investigate..

Have there been instances where the trim tag was just wrong ? Doesn't appear to be tampered with.
Any suggestions on how to proceed ?

Thanks again
Len Chetti

[Jack P.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Thanks Wayne and Larry. Appreciate the help.

I've searched much of the archives and now know lots about the body numbers.

My vin # 1943677s105681 has a trim tag with E08 as the build date and s2331 as the body number. I compared this to the others (67 registry) etc. and they seem to be consistent.
The trim code of 988AA is the paint and std is the interior (Blk Vinyl)

Everything looks good for a 67 maroon conv. with blk interior. Right??

Problem is the interior was saddle when I got it (1980) and the car appears to have been green as best as I can tell. ??? (gold, burgundy and green all at one time or another ).

Thus I'm looking to confirm the maroon/black trim tag is right or wrong...
I was hoping there was the body # somewhere on the body to confirm the tag was correct.

I've owned this car for over 30 yrs..just stopped driving it long enough to investigate..

Have there been instances where the trim tag was just wrong ? Doesn't appear to be tampered with.
Any suggestions on how to proceed ?

Thanks again
Len Chetti

Hi Len, not much chance of it being wrong if not tampered with. My 66 was maroon with saddle, but I changed it 38 years ago to Glen Green

My car now probably looks like your car did, when it was green , with saddle. I am second owner, 42 years, but many of these cars had 3 or 4 owners in the first 10 years , lots of changes back then, numbers and paint did not matter, what mattered was what you liked, for yourself, not because of value or originality. We just wanted the cars to run and look good.

Jack

[Leonard C.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Jack, Thanks for the nice pictures!

Your right, When I bought this car I only wanted to drive a 67 corvette...As long as it was legit I figured I could fix most of the problems. Oh, young and stupid!
I bought what some might call a project car. (30 yr project !) and have been trying to make it a correct driver ever since.

Now the car is white with blk vinyl. Mostly used reputable corvette suppliers for all parts and kept original's when I could. I drive it weekly...When I figure out how to post tiny photos I'll post some. For now I'm just trying to nail down the actual configuration of the car when it was born.

My wife is confused since she doesn't understand why I care whether the car was green or maroon....she could be the smart one in the family !

Len Chetti

[Jack P.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Jack, Thanks for the nice pictures!

Your right, When I bought this car I only wanted to drive a 67 corvette...As long as it was legit I figured I could fix most of the problems. Oh, young and stupid!
I bought what some might call a project car. (30 yr project !) and have been trying to make it a correct driver ever since.

Now the car is white with blk vinyl. Mostly used reputable corvette suppliers for all parts and kept original's when I could. I drive it weekly...When I figure out how to post tiny photos I'll post some. For now I'm just trying to nail down the actual configuration of the car when it was born.

My wife is confused since she doesn't understand why I care whether the car was green or maroon....she could be the smart one in the family !

Len Chetti

Best way to post photos is to join Photobucket or some similar site. You upload you fotos to the site, name them etc, and when you want to post a picture on this forum, copy the location on the photo , paste it in the post and it appears on the post. Photobucket is free , unless you want extra features.

If you use the attachment on the site (see paper clip icon on top of post) you click on it and a attachment window opens , follow directions, but it is not the best way to do it.

Keep driving , I am at 250,000 plus in my car, 20,000 miles just last summer on my 48 state trip

Jack

[Tom R.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Leonard,

My car is #5656 and would have came off the line just before yours. My trim tag build date agrees with yours for E08. However, my body number is S3201 and I don't have much knowledge about what that number should or shouldn't be sequencing wise. I'm interested to know if you have a copy of your build/tank sticker to find out what your job number is from that day? If so, your penciled on number should be 25 after what mine has.

[Larry M.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Len and Tom:

Body numbers are different for coupe and convertible. Both for St Louis bodies and also for AOS bodies. Total of four different body numbers are possible.

Both of your cars appear to be St Louis bodies with the body number beginning with an "S". But are your cars coupes or convertibles?? I can't be certain from the information provided. Len's VIN of 1943677S105681 is not a valid number.....it is one digit too long. Should be either 194677S105681 (convertible) or 194377S105681 (coupe).

This may answer the question regarding the big difference in body numbers between the two cars built on the same date (E08 or December 8 1966).

Larry

EDIT: In re-reading the above posts, I see that Len listed two different body numbers: S3221 and S2331. Probably just transposed the numbers on his different posts, but this needs to be clarified also.....and will help to answer the questions.

[Jack H.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Wow, 2 cars built the same day as mine right here in one thread. What a coincidence.

I own Serial #5642, St Louis Body #3192, E08, which is a Convertible. Our cars probably talked to eachother that fateful day many years ago.

Tom, I have my tank sticker (in really, really bad shape)...when I get home I'll check for a job/sequence number but I don't recall seeing one so that part of the sticker may not have survived.

[Leonard C.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Larry, This is what happens when you get old and can no longer see !

My 67 vin should have been posted as # 194677S105681...not sure how the 3 got in there.
1967 Convertible with Body # s3221, paint 988AA and std as the interior.

I don't have any build sheet or paperwork on the car...I bought it in MD. around 4/1980. Just recently have I decided to investigate car's history ...over the years I thought the car was green/saddle when new (thats what the car seemed to show) I stll have the old saddle seat belts...But now It appears I was wrong...(Happens alot these day's)

Any help verifying this info would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for the mistakes...
Len Chetti

[Tom R.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Jack and Leonard,

Seems like we can all benefit from each other. Mine obviously is a convertible based upon the body and VIN in association to Jack's. The hand written job number on my build sheet is 153. And since our cars were on the line so close the same day, maybe it's safe to conclude that the same guy would have written both. I've learned from this forum that the job numbers will match the last three of the VIN or be off by 500. But, it wasn't uncommon for the job's to be off by a few in 1967 based upon other information on this discussion board. So it looks that mine is off by 3. So given Jack's VIN sequence, his job number would be 14 less than mine, or 139. Also, would be curious as to the Ident No., Date Received, and Exp. Date of Production on your build sheet.

Thanks!

[Wayne M.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

.....Everything looks good for a 67 maroon conv. with blk interior. Right??

Problem is the interior was saddle when I got it (1980) and the car appears to have been green as best as I can tell. ??? (gold, burgundy and green all at one time or another ).

Thus I'm looking to confirm the maroon/black trim tag is right or wrong...I've owned this car for over 30 yrs..just stopped driving it long enough to investigate....

Len -- try looking way up above the kickpad vent area, to just below the windshield (birdcage) frame. The original body spray was very generous and re-paints never go to the trouble of covering every nook and cranny with a color change.

Another thing -- prior to 1980, IMHO, changing trim tags was almost unheard of, and repros were not available. Even so, maroon had peaked in popularity along with dark greens in the late '60s.

[Leonard C.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

Thanks Wayne, I'll check that area this week.
I recently took the glovebox out and looked over the id tags. No evidence that everything isn't original. However doing some searches I discovered a replaced windshield on a correct 67 that had been repainted showed clearly lots of burgundy paint! I need to replace weather stripping in that area so I'm going to try and remove stainless around windshield as well. I'll also chech out the windshield dates to be sure its right.
Any other suggestions on probable areas to look ?


Thanks, Len Chetti

[Tom R.]

Re: 67 Conv. Body numbers ??

The lock pillar panel would also normally show original paint. It's the flat metal reinforcement just behind the seats that connects the rear door pillars. The carpet shouldn't be hard to pull back along with the insulation. It would have received overspray at the factory near the door pillars.