Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

[Dale M.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

Tom, I hope that you will let us know how it worked. I have a buddy in our club with some POR-15, we are going to use both products on some rusty steel and see how it last. I plan to leave it out all winter, maybe add some salt water from time to time. Will try to simulate some bad northern winters.

Good Luck on your restoration.

[Steve L.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

I used POR15 on the inside of my frame only. The frame was acid dipped first. Getting POR15 to cover on the inside isn't easy. I tried all kinds of different methods. I ended up using a 3M wonded that sprays in 3 different directions -front and two sides. I had to cut the POR15 with acetone almost 100%, used a undercoating gun at max pressure that I dared with a long wand. Then checked with a snake camera. I eventually covered everything.

The rust has to be completely removed with only a very light surface rust or the POR15 is useless.

The outside is DPL90. I've had a couple of small patches of DPL90 flake off but not the POR15

[Randall K.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

For what it's worth, this is my experience with Eastwood.

I've used the Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on my birdcage - accessed through a rust-through just below the windshield frame. I used a CO2-powered disposable sprayer (see your local hardware box store) with diluted Encapsulator to get inside the birdcage/windshield frame. Been sitting in my garage for almost 2 years - no signs of rust-through.

I also used undiluted Encapsulator on my rusting mailbox post with no preparation. It went on well, and after two years there is absolutely no peeling and no sign of rust coming through where I treated the post.

Randy

[Ronald L.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

Did you guys miss a step - they call this a 4 step process? This from their website...

"For the absolute ultimate rust remedy, first brush or spray on Eastwood Rust Converter, then prime with Rust Encapsulator"



I do not believe you can do both in one bottle.

One set of chemistry is to take iron oxide and convert it back to iron - that is not easy.

The other is this paint that seals it afterwards and of course you have two other steps and cans of stuff - that is where you get 4.
1-cleaner
2-converter
3-sealer
4-chassis black

Then like all internet - read the comments posted there...not all are positive.

[Jake D.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

Ron-- You're looking at a different process. The stuff I used on our boat frame was --Internal Frame Coating -- a totally different process than the Encapuslator 4 step method. All you do with the Internal Frame Coating is spray it inside the frame--that's it, no muss, no fuss--and it works too!

[Dan P.]

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The Rust Convertors that turn rust black really work. I used it on a couple of old Ford vans .That had rust every were . Just scraped of the lose paint and scales put on the Rust Convertor and then brushed on some paint . Held 90% of the rust back. That was 3 years ago. These Vans never see the inside of a garage and stay in the inner city. They are never washed and are exposed to a lot of salt on the street.
Being a body man for many years I have dealt with some rust . 3M has a product called Rust Fighter I .Which is the same waxed base stuff the factories use for Rust protection .It is designed for inside panels. So I ground down a piece of metal and coated it with the Rust Fighter. NO paint bare metal. Then I buried in the ground . Took over a moth or two for it to start rusting .

[John H.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

Used the Eastwood coating in the rockers and around the bed wheel wells on of both of our Chevy 1500, and 2500 PU's . Did a great job getting into every nook and cranny. I then painted the wheel wells with gloss Rustoleum for added coverage. The rockers are notorious for rust on GM pickups so tried it there. Have used POR-15 on stuff with good results but cannot spray the way the Eastwood coating does . The nozzle does transfer to other spray cans though and is easy to clean with brake cleaner.

[Joe R.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

You guys are just proving the old saying:

"Out of sight, Out of Mind!"

In other words you are just covering up the rust and crud so it's fixed only in your mind.

Cover up the rust and the next time it gets wet it starts rusting all over again.

JR

Yeah, I'm all for a test! Take a rusty frame and cover it with this snake oil and expose it to salt water and after 40 years publish the results in "The Driveline".

[Dale M.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

You guys are just proving the old saying:

"Out of sight, Out of Mind!"

In other words you are just covering up the rust and crud so it's fixed only in your mind.

Cover up the rust and the next time it gets wet it starts rusting all over again.

JR

Yeah, I'm all for a test! Take a rusty frame and cover it with this snake oil and expose it to salt water and after 40 years publish the results in "The Driveline".

Well I hope that is not the case. I expect the both the POR 15 or the Eastwood Internal Frame Coating treatments with react with the rust to stop further rusting and seal the surface to prevent future rusting. I am preparing a test on where we can see how it hold up in the future. As you know, its a little hard to get inside the frame and remove all of the rust and treat it. This is the best solutions we have. I had my frame dipped to get the rust out of the inside, but this is not possible on some parts and for some projects. I hope that this is a permanent solution for my hardtop as the brace is less that 1 inch inside. I am very open to other suggestions and thaenk everyone for their input.

[John H.]

Re: Eastwood Internal Frame Coating

I shot the rockers on the truck and rear fenders as a prevention to rusting. The were rust free at the time. I have used Eastwoods rust encapsulation coatings on steel projects with success in the past where I have machine wire brushed the rust off the surface and then coated the the surface with their product and then paint. The rust has not resurfaced.