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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #16
    Re: AIM question

    Originally posted by Robert Kerestes (36438)
    OK Loren, you got me!!
    • .......Standards Parts Book???
    • What, where can we view that?
    • Is it available through this Board?
    • Are the Groups you mentioned 8.900s in the Standards Parts Book?
    We're going to nail this eventually.......!!

    As you guys can tell, I have a number of questions related to a "number" of fastners and am trying to nail down one source to find these answers rather than continuing to post questions on the board that pretty soon you'll all be bored with and won't want to answer me!!
    Robert------


    As has been mentioned, the GM Standard Parts Catalog was available for many years. The cover and a sample page of one of the last, if not the last, printed versions is shown below. Some earlier versions show lesser information on individual parts.

    One important misconception and thing to keep in mind: I would estimate that only about 10%, or less, of the Standard Parts used in PRODUCTION were ever available in SERVICE and thus included in the Standard Parts Catalog.
    Attached Files
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Robert K.
      Very Frequent User
      • June 30, 2001
      • 212

      #17
      Re: AIM question

      Hi Joe,
      • So does that mean that the majority of the parts shown in the Standard Parts Catalog are SERVICE REPLACEMENT parts, or do I have that confused?
      • Does anyone have a copy of the Standard Parts Catalog and would be willing to post it on the Board, or would it take too much work because of its volume?
      • If someone were willing, I bet our Board IT expert could get it done in a flash!!

      Thanks again,

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      • Loren L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 30, 1976
        • 4104

        #18
        Re: AIM question

        Bob:
        Terry's reply MAY more beneficially reflect what you want than what Joe's implies, ie, "Standard Parts" basically reflected fasteners. When you get up to the 82 or 92 that Joe shows as his cover, you would require about 10,000 sheets of "parts history" sheets to make them work.
        Use that as a reminder if you have old parts books - check for a "parts history" section and insert your AIM # and see if a "succesor" parts # is shown - if the dreaded "discontinued" shows up, perform the last rites on that fastener and start working on your "factory prototype" speech and presentation.
        Good luck.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #19
          Re: AIM question

          Originally posted by Robert Kerestes (36438)
          Hi Joe,
          • So does that mean that the majority of the parts shown in the Standard Parts Catalog are SERVICE REPLACEMENT parts, or do I have that confused?
          • Does anyone have a copy of the Standard Parts Catalog and would be willing to post it on the Board, or would it take too much work because of its volume?
          • If someone were willing, I bet our Board IT expert could get it done in a flash!!
          Thanks again,
          Robert------


          I believe that most of the parts shown in the Standard Parts Catalog were also used in PRODUCTION. My guesstimate would be that about 95% of them were used in PRODUCTION. However, GM never had available in SERVICE the vast majority of standard parts used in PRODUCTION-----only a very small number-----at the most 10%-----were SERVICE available. Only those that were SERVICE-available are shown in the Standard Parts Catalog.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #20
            Re: AIM question

            Originally posted by Robert Kerestes (36438)
            Hi Joe,
            • So does that mean that the majority of the parts shown in the Standard Parts Catalog are SERVICE REPLACEMENT parts, or do I have that confused?
            • Does anyone have a copy of the Standard Parts Catalog and would be willing to post it on the Board, or would it take too much work because of its volume?
            • If someone were willing, I bet our Board IT expert could get it done in a flash!!

            Thanks again,
            Who will scan hundreds of pages for each book? The books are bound, so no sheet feeders allowed. The pages are very thin, so most sheet feeders wouldn't work anyway.

            And then there is the Parts History & Supercession Catalogs.

            I hate to be a wet blanket, but I think you have no idea what a task you are looking at.
            Terry

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            • Robert K.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 30, 2001
              • 212

              #21
              Re: AIM question

              Joe / Terry / Loren,

              Thank you for your replies!

              Terry,
              You are correct - I do not have an idea of the volume here since I've never seen a Standards Parts Catalog - which is basically what I mentioned in one of my notes as it relates to volume. Thanks for the education.......

              Joe,
              One further question for my education......
              Any thoughts on why such a small percentage of PRODUCTION part were SERVICE available? Is it strictly economics and they just make SERVICE available parts that "wore out" / consumable and thus the small percentage? If so, it would be interesting in today's manufacturing process to see what the percentage is.......

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43193

                #22
                Re: AIM question

                Originally posted by Robert Kerestes (36438)
                Joe / Terry / Loren,

                Thank you for your replies!

                Terry,
                You are correct - I do not have an idea of the volume here since I've never seen a Standards Parts Catalog - which is basically what I mentioned in one of my notes as it relates to volume. Thanks for the education.......

                Joe,
                One further question for my education......
                Any thoughts on why such a small percentage of PRODUCTION part were SERVICE available? Is it strictly economics and they just make SERVICE available parts that "wore out" / consumable and thus the small percentage? If so, it would be interesting in today's manufacturing process to see what the percentage is.......
                I expect the reasons were several. First and foremost would be that it would be totally impractical for GMSPO to stock every fastener ever used in PRODUCTION. This would create a huge inventory space demand for parts that would be rarely sold.

                Second, I expect that GMSPO considered that the fasteners they did stock could be used for just about every SERVICE application. The fastener available might not be exactly like the one used in PRODUCTION but satisfactory for a SERVICE application. For example, a PRODUCTION bolt might have been 1-3/32" in length. Having a SERVICE fastener available that was 1-1/4" in length would SERVICE the original application.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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