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1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

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  • Scott S.
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    • September 11, 2009
    • 1961

    1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

    I recently discovered that the clip which holds the turn signal flasher to the LH radio side panel is missing. While researching the part, I found what seems to be conflicting information. According to the 1965-1967 AIMs this clip was GM 3866440, used with Screw 9419328, which AMK shows as a #10-16 x 1/2" screw. (UPC 12-B1)

    Beginning in 1968 two of these clips are used per car. One in the jack stowage compartment (GM 3866440 Clip, UPC UA6-A3, Item 3), same p/n as 1965-67, but uses Screw # 9420688, which AMK shows as being a #6-20 x 1/2" screw. That can't be, if it's going in the same hole that takes a #10-16 x 1/2" screw in the same clip for 1965-67. The other location in 1968 is under the dash (UPC 12-B4, item 11), the Clip looks identical but has a different p/n, GM 3943610. It is used with Screw # 9421137. AMK shows this screw is #8-18 x 1/2".

    The 1969 AIM shows Clip 3943610 being used in both locations, with Screw 9421137 used under the dash and Screw 9420688 used in the jack stowage compartment.


    The new clip 3943610 first appears in the October 1968 printing of the 1969 P&A, listed this way:
    68-69 CORVETTE (2nd design) . . . . . . CLIP, dir. sig. lamp flasher . . . . . . . 3943610†
    †NOTE: 3943610 (2nd design) has larger mtg. hole than 3866440 (1st design).



    Pictures of original 3866440 clips look identical to pictures of NOS 3943610 clips, as far as I can tell. It seems that the only way to distinguish the 3866440 clip from the 3943610 clip is by the size of screw it takes. The P&A says the 2nd design (3943610) clip has a larger mounting hole implying a larger screw, but the 1968-1969 AIMs call out screw part numbers which have a smaller diameter, either 9420688 (#6-20 x 1/2", which seems impossible) or 9421137 (#8-18 x 1/2"), if either AMK or I have the respective dimensions correct.

    Do the later clips (1968+) actually have a larger hole, or does the P&A have it backwards, and it should say the later clips have a smaller mounting hole? Is there any other way to distinguish the two clips?

    Can anyone confirm the screw sizes used in any of these locations, for either 65-67 or 68+?
  • John C.
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    • January 1, 2005
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    Re: 1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

    Scott

    Looking at the AIM I think the difference in hole size is based on how the clip is held on.

    In the 1967 application it appears the screw that holds the clip comes in from the rear. The screw passes through the panel and holds onto the clip itself. This requires a small pilot hole in the clip and some type of self tapping sheetmetal screw to hold onto it.

    In the 1968+ under dash application the screw passes through the clip and holds onto the dash. This requires a large clearance hole for the screw to pass through.

    The 68+ UA6 application must use a small enough screw that is can pass through the small pilot hole as is.

    John

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    • Scott S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 11, 2009
      • 1961

      #3
      Re: 1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

      Originally posted by John Carlson (43123)
      Scott

      Looking at the AIM I think the difference in hole size is based on how the clip is held on.

      In the 1967 application it appears the screw that holds the clip comes in from the rear. The screw passes through the panel and holds onto the clip itself. This requires a small pilot hole in the clip and some type of self tapping sheetmetal screw to hold onto it.

      In the 1968+ under dash application the screw passes through the clip and holds onto the dash. This requires a large clearance hole for the screw to pass through.

      The 68+ UA6 application must use a small enough screw that is can pass through the small pilot hole as is.

      John
      John,

      Thanks very much for the reply, I see what you mean in the AIMs about the different attaching methods. It sounds like it would best to find a 1963-67 clip with the smaller mounting hole, I'm just not sure how to distinguish the one from the other.

      I have seen a few on eBay that are claimed to be originals for 1968+, and they have a completely open hole, like a fuel or brake line clip hole. I have seen other examples that are claimed to be NOS for 1968+ (and used examples where the part number and applicable years was not given), and the hole opening looks "twisted", like the stamped steel speed nuts used to attach rear exhaust bezels.

      Based on your attachment observations, I'm thinking that the "open hole" variety are 1968+, and the type with the speed-nut type hole are the 1963-1967 type.

      Can anyone confirm this?

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      • John C.
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        • January 1, 2005
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        Re: 1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

        Scott

        Yes, I would guess the twisted speed nut look is original to 63-67 as it is where the screw would hold the clip.

        The clips on both my 67 and 68 are the same. They both have a large hole. The hole is closed. On my 68 I'm positive the clip is the original to the car but on my 67 I'm sure it's a reproduction as the mounting hardware is obviously all replacement and I can see where the hole in the side panel has been enlarged to make it fit. I will post a picture of what I have tomorrow.

        John

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        • John C.
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          • January 1, 2005
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          Re: 1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

          Scott

          It looks as if Paragon has both styles available.

          https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-34...-clip-kit.aspx

          https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-34...sher-clip.aspx

          John

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          • Scott S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 11, 2009
            • 1961

            #6
            Re: 1965-1967 turn signal flasher clip & screw vs. 1968+ flasher clips & screws?

            Originally posted by John Carlson (43123)
            John,

            Thank you for the links.

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