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  • Lyndon S.
    Expired
    • April 30, 1988
    • 1027

    engine paints

    Does anyone make a engine enamel that will hold up for a long time on the exhaust manifold?
  • Arland D.
    Moderator
    • July 31, 1980
    • 415

    #2
    Re: engine paints

    Lyndon,

    Sand blast the manifolds and follow with a coat of 'cast blast 1200' paint and they will look good for many years.

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    • Lyndon S.
      Expired
      • April 30, 1988
      • 1027

      #3
      Re: engine paints

      would like something that is Chevrolet Orange

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11608

        #4
        Re: engine paints

        Lyndon,

        Just remember - you're not "supposed to" have orange on your manifolds.
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15573

          #5
          Re: engine paints

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          Lyndon,

          Just remember - you're not "supposed to" have much orange on your manifolds.
          There, I fixed it for you Patrick.
          Terry

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11608

            #6
            Re: engine paints

            JG, page 66:

            "... beginning in 1968 engines were painted before exhaust manifolds were installed and should have no engine orange on the exhaust manifold."
            The next sentence then alludes that there are "some" in existence that have been seen with orange on the exhaust manifolds.

            My interpretation is that you don't paint them unless you have some way to document they came that way.
            And, since those 3 lines aren't very clear we need to revise that for JG #5.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15573

              #7
              Re: engine paints

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              JG, page 66:

              "... beginning in 1968 engines were painted before exhaust manifolds were installed and should have no engine orange on the exhaust manifold."
              The next sentence then alludes that there are "some" in existence that have been seen with orange on the exhaust manifolds.

              My interpretation is that you don't paint them unless you have some way to document they came that way.
              And, since those 3 lines aren't very clear we need to revise that for JG #5.

              Patrick
              I thought Lyndon was asking for his 1971 LS5 that he is so dedicated to. Please see his signature in the opening post. If he is asking about a 1968 I stand corrected and withdraw my comments.
              Terry

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              • Jim M.
                Expired
                • February 23, 2009
                • 233

                #8
                Re: engine paints

                A related question. Did exhaust manifolds for 69 come with anything on them? I was under the impression that they came bare and just rusted up with time. Wouldn't putting a coating on them cost you judging points?

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                • Mark D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1988
                  • 2142

                  #9
                  Re: engine paints

                  In the words of a Florida Junkman, "in rust we trust"
                  Kramden

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                  • Lyndon S.
                    Expired
                    • April 30, 1988
                    • 1027

                    #10
                    Re: engine paints

                    Does anyone know for sure that Tonawanda did not spray engine exhaust manifolds in the 70-72 cars with LS-5 engines? I am going to send my manifolds off to Jerry MacNish and let him do his magic on them . I was thinking of putting a base coat of the cast high heat paint then shooting orange over the cast paint.

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15573

                      #11
                      Re: engine paints

                      Originally posted by Jim MacDonald (50130)
                      A related question. Did exhaust manifolds for 69 come with anything on them? I was under the impression that they came bare and just rusted up with time. Wouldn't putting a coating on them cost you judging points?
                      BB or SB?

                      1969-1972 small block engines were painted before the manifolds were installed -- thus no paint. Any coating will result in some deduction depending on the coating and its appearance. Some minor corrosion is acceptable.

                      While not everyone buys into it, most of us believe the 1969-1972 Mark IV engines were painted with the exhaust manifolds installed. Thus there should be some orange near the heads and on the "ears" where the exhaust manifold fasteners attach, and on those fasteners. Any other coating will receive the same treatment as the small block exhaust manifolds above.

                      I will add that some believe even 1968 fat motors were painted with the exhaust manifolds installed; and 1968 little motors were painted without exhaust manifolds. That said the engine lifting systems changed at the end of 1968 beginning of 1969 and it is possible this changed whether the exhaust manifolds were installed before or after engine paint. The original paint engines I have seen, even in 1968 tell me the engine lift system made no difference, but I know people for whom I have a lot of respect who honestly believe differently. This restoration business is not always an exact science.
                      Terry

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                      • Lyndon S.
                        Expired
                        • April 30, 1988
                        • 1027

                        #12
                        Re: engine paints

                        I have seen some what appears to be the remnants of orange paint on some BB 71 bowtie cars, and in some photos of some other low mileage cars although albeit they were not corvettes but a 454 chevelle and I know that is not proof , but it appears that Tonawanda was still painting completed engines with the exhaust on them during that period. I just want to make sure before I go to all the trouble of having them coated. I wanted to get a conscious of what was acceptable now

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                        • Terry M.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • September 30, 1980
                          • 15573

                          #13
                          Re: engine paints

                          Originally posted by Lyndon Sharpton (12791)
                          I have seen some what appears to be the remnants of orange paint on some BB 71 bowtie cars, and in some photos of some other low mileage cars although albeit they were not corvettes but a 454 chevelle and I know that is not proof , but it appears that Tonawanda was still painting completed engines with the exhaust on them during that period. I just want to make sure before I go to all the trouble of having them coated. I wanted to get a conscious of what was acceptable now
                          I have my flame suit on. You should stay tuned to this station.
                          Terry

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                          • Lyndon S.
                            Expired
                            • April 30, 1988
                            • 1027

                            #14
                            Re: engine paints

                            I have seen some what appears to be the remnants of orange paint on some BB 71 bowtie cars, and in some photos of some other low mileage cars although albeit they were not corvettes but a 454 chevelle and I know that is not proof , but it appears that Tonawanda was still painting completed engines with the exhaust on them during that period. I just want to make sure before I go to all the trouble of having them coated. I wanted to get a conscious of what was acceptable now

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                            • Dick W.
                              Former NCRS Director Region IV
                              • June 30, 1985
                              • 10483

                              #15
                              Re: engine paints

                              Originally posted by Arland Dower (3734)
                              Lyndon,

                              Sand blast the manifolds and follow with a coat of 'cast blast 1200' paint and they will look good for many years.
                              And the team will take deductions for non typical appearance, usually at least 20% of available points
                              Dick Whittington

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