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  • Al E.
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    • September 5, 2011
    • 313

    Wonderbar

    My radio works. But the thing makes a buzzing when the engine is on. I have condenser on the GEN, Coil, VR. and AMM the gauge under the dash. So what gives. Did I miss something?
  • John F.
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    • March 23, 2008
    • 2395

    #2
    Re: Wonderbar

    Call Jerry Rudbeck @ Electro Design. He is the radio guru who rebuilt mine.

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    • Philip P.
      Expired
      • February 28, 2011
      • 558

      #3
      Re: Wonderbar

      If all your spark plug shielding is in place, wires are good, grounds are secure, then it could be a tube or filter capacitor in the radio. The old electron tubes can get noisy and will cause what you are hearing. You would need to find someone that can check the radio if that is the case. The test equipment required is not in the normal workshop.
      Bizzing sound is probably radio raelated where a static sound would likley be ignition related.

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      • John F.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • March 23, 2008
        • 2395

        #4
        Re: Wonderbar

        Al, See a couple pics of Jerry's work. The insides are cleaner than the outside and all rebuilt.
        Attached Files

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        • Al E.
          Expired
          • September 5, 2011
          • 313

          #5
          Re: Wonderbar

          This make sense. I only have the top sheild in place but no side shelds,nor wheel collectors. I think they may have been tosses in an older break job in the 60's

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          • Al E.
            Expired
            • September 5, 2011
            • 313

            #6
            Re: Wonderbar

            Are these tubes easy to replace? where will I find them..

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            • Philip P.
              Expired
              • February 28, 2011
              • 558

              #7
              Re: Wonderbar

              Easy to replace, where to find them well that could be a challenge. Tubes are available but you should have the ones you have checked to see if they are bad. Probably easier to take the radio to someone with the equipment to do this. Back in the day this was a easy thing to do but now most of it is specialized because most of the test equipment is old and not readily available.

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              • Ian G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 3, 2007
                • 1114

                #8
                Re: Wonderbar

                you can often find tube sets on eBay for around $30 or so and the sellers usually guarantee they are good.

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                • Al E.
                  Expired
                  • September 5, 2011
                  • 313

                  #9
                  Re: Wonderbar

                  Originally posted by Philip Porter (53007)
                  Easy to replace, where to find them well that could be a challenge. Tubes are available but you should have the ones you have checked to see if they are bad. Probably easier to take the radio to someone with the equipment to do this. Back in the day this was a easy thing to do but now most of it is specialized because most of the test equipment is old and not readily available.

                  There is a local audio shop that told me they could give it a good cleaning inside and out with alcohol. I was told that this would get the wonderbar button working as well, it works halfass, well, less than halfass..it drags when going in reverse and that's the only direction it goes.

                  Anyways. Should they be touching the insides with alcohol?
                  Do you know the tube part#s i should get for a 1960?

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                  • John F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • March 23, 2008
                    • 2395

                    #10
                    Re: Wonderbar

                    Al, Call Jerry Rudbeck above. He will answer all your questions.

                    John

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                    • Philip P.
                      Expired
                      • February 28, 2011
                      • 558

                      #11
                      Re: Wonderbar

                      Alcohol should not be harmful to these older radios some of the newer cleaners can be a problem for coatings and plastic. I agree with John the person he recommends works on these so probably has all the test equipment and tools and tubes to get it going. Probably will not be cheap.
                      Phil

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                      • Jim D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 2882

                        #12
                        Re: Wonderbar

                        Originally posted by John Ftacek (48800)
                        Call Jerry Rudbeck @ Electro Design. He is the radio guru who rebuilt mine.
                        Jerry has restored 2 radios for me. There's none better than Jerry.

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                        • Thomas H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • August 31, 2005
                          • 1053

                          #13
                          Re: Wonderbar

                          Originally posted by Al Edmonds (53783)
                          My radio works. But the thing makes a buzzing when the engine is on. I have condenser on the GEN, Coil, VR. and AMM the gauge under the dash. So what gives. Did I miss something?

                          Al,

                          If the radio works well, without the buzzing noise, when the engine is not running, then I would suspect the filter capacitors. If they are older ones, just because you have them installed does not mean they are still effective. The dielectric inside the caps breaks down over time and they lose their filtering capacity.

                          Tom
                          1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                          1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                          1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
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                          • Al E.
                            Expired
                            • September 5, 2011
                            • 313

                            #14
                            Re: Wonderbar

                            Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
                            Al,

                            If the radio works well, without the buzzing noise, when the engine is not running, then I would suspect the filter capacitors. If they are older ones, just because you have them installed does not mean they are still effective. The dielectric inside the caps breaks down over time and they lose their filtering capacity.

                            Tom
                            Tom,

                            Wonderful information, I will just change them all out. what about the static collectors? Are they major part in this issue. Although like you said, the wonderbar works just fine with the motor is not running.

                            Awesome photos of your sweet 1960.

                            Al

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #15
                              Re: Wonderbar

                              Originally posted by Al Edmonds (53783)

                              what about the static collectors? Are they major part in this issue.
                              Al
                              Al -

                              The front wheel dust cap static collectors are essentially useless, which is why they were discontinued.

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