Trim tag change
I am looking at a 67 vette which apparently has matching numbers but where the tank sticker is missing and the trim tag has been changed. Can someone explain the implication of the missing tank sticker and maybe some ideas on how to verify the matching numbers and original trim of car. Is there a way to tie the car Vin# and drivetrain numbers to the original trim? Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
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If the car has a protecto plate you can glean some trim info. If you have no trim tag, no tank sticker, and no protecto plate you can't really verify anything. If an original car is your goal, I'd pass on this car. From a judging perspective, a car without a trim tag is not going to judge well and at best be a 2nd Flight. -
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Lars,
You're heading into a hornet's nest on any car with a swapped trim tag. Amongst everything else, it cannot be judged by NCRS, at all. Previously the car would have been boxed into second flight or less.. That may not bother you at the present time, but may turn away future purchasers of the car down the road. The term 'numbers matching' is pretty nebulous and vague and is not used in NCRS activities. There's a pretty amusing thread going on over at the other website about what this phrase actually means.
The missing tank sticker is not rare but of course makes it that much more difficult for the seller to prove that his car is what he's advertising it as. If you're looking for a no excuse, orignal engine car, this one has several strikes against it already.
Proving what it started life out as vs. what it is today is now a matter of forensics that may still leave some element of doubt.Comment
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I'm hoping Roy or Nick Culkowski sees this and comments, but I'm curious as to what the policy is when there is other documentation available that would have the same or even more info than the trim tag. For example, now that the NCRS is validating build sheets, etc. shouldn't it also be able to accept that as the "as built" configuration? I understand maybe the paperwork is not workable since very few people have access to the information, but what about POP's? There is a POP book out there the same as the trim tag book, and most people in the field should be able to use it to validate a legitimate POP in the same way we do for trim tags.Comment
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Saw a similar post of the Corvette Forum a few days ago. The poster stated that the seller told him the car had been restored a few years ago and that the cars original color was green/saddle. Now it was something else with a repro trim tag to match.
The only way I would consider it, would be that the seller also provide the original trim tag that he or his "restorer" removed. If you are interested in the car, you have the advantage of having him produce the original trim tag.
Page CampbellComment
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With so many decent cars comming on the market at lower prices these days i would maybe pay a little more and buy a legit car to begin with.IMHOComment
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Lars
Welcome to the NCRS. There are tons of super knowledgeable guys on the site so there won't be a shortage of well informed opinions from guys that have been there and done that. In my opinion I would pass on the car. In this economy, you can find a car that hasn't had a VIN tag or Trim tag swap. Otherwise, you will always have a car with "a story". Do yourself a favor and buy the Trim Tag book from the NCRS and you will be ahead of the game. Good luck with your search and welcome aboard....ARAComment
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Your answers are highly appreciated and point in the direction that I am thinking myself - spent a bit more $$ and get a car where counterfeit is not a concern. In the long run that will likely prove a better investment!Comment
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Well advised, and MUCH better investment.Bill Clupper #618Comment
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