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  • Gary L.
    Expired
    • June 19, 2011
    • 62

    1959 judging issue

    Had a judge at nationals note that the tie rod to drag link sleeve bolts were too long and should be "tr"" designation. The bolts do need to be 1/4 shorter, but these are "ur" designated bolts. Does anyone have correct bolts designation? They should be grade 5 fine thread 5/16 bolts with lock nuts the best i can tell. Not sure if he meant "ur", which paragon shows for this application, or should they be "tr" designation. This will be a simple fix soon as can obtain correct ones.
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15573

    #2
    Re: 1959 judging issue

    Gary,

    I will give you a free ride to the top.

    I can not tell you anything much about 1959s -- BUT I can tell you that almost never is there only one head mark applicable to a specific position on a Corvette. As you know the head mark indicated not only the grade of the fastener, but also the supplier. For what seems like a common bolt like this, I would expect several head marks might be appropriate. Hopefully someone with an intimate knowledge of the 1959 chassis will be able to help.

    Meantime enjoy the ride.
    Terry

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    • William D.
      Expired
      • November 14, 2011
      • 10

      #3
      Re: 1959 judging issue

      Gary, currently doing frame on restoration on C-1. Am original owner and some what an accomplished mechanic. Have an original tie rod sleeve bolt in my hand. This bolt is actually 1-1/8 " long with an L mark on head. We have replacements from Zip and they are 1-1/4" long with UR head mark. Corvette Central indicates a TR head mark, but just checked their web pic, it is UR head mark. Ahhh, the repro market is great. Obviously, I'm using whats available.

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      • Mike M.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1974
        • 8365

        #4
        Re: 1959 judging issue

        both of my 57's had "L" mfgr logo on these bolts. mike

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        • Gary C.
          Administrator
          • October 1, 1982
          • 17549

          #5
          Re: 1959 judging issue

          Gary,

          Richard Brodeur who posts here IIRC did an inventory of '59 bolt head markings.

          As Terry said most applications might have used more than 1 bolt manufacturer (head marking).

          Most of the original tie rod adjustment bolts I've seen had L head markings.

          The vendors seem to follow the "general rule" that suspension bolts head marks were typically TR with some UR thrown in.

          The 56-7 Judging Manual 5th edition revision team spent a lot of time trying to compile the different bolt head marks and where used.

          JMTCW,

          Gary
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          • Gary L.
            Expired
            • June 19, 2011
            • 62

            #6
            Re: 1959 judging issue

            Nothing in 58-59 judging manual about trademarks or length. 1 1/8 inches looks to be the correct. I have the "ur" trademard that are 1 1/4 long. Both trademark and length are in question.

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            • Bob M.
              Expired
              • March 1, 2004
              • 66

              #7
              Re: 1959 judging issue

              Gary,

              I have TR bolts on my 60, they look like they have never been replaced. Also, look like they are in the 1 1/8" range.

              Bob

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              • Gary L.
                Expired
                • June 19, 2011
                • 62

                #8
                Re: 1959 judging issue

                Are they cadium plated or dark like gun metal grey?

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                • Bob M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 2004
                  • 66

                  #9
                  Re: 1959 judging issue

                  I can't say for sure because of the rust issue. I wire brushed the tie rods, fastners and put a coat of clear lacquer over everything after I put the inspection marks on.

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