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  • Scott S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 11, 2009
    • 1961

    #16
    Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

    Originally posted by Neal Kalis (48092)
    Hi Scott,
    Thanks for the references to the Judging Manual. Does it say if the ears on the switch are positioned above or below the instrument Cluster?
    Neal
    Neal,

    The 2005 publication of the 67JG is not specific, but the 2011 issue of the 66JG says: "The headlight motor operating switch is mounted through the far left slot in the lower lip of the instrument cluster on non-A/C cars and on the inboard slot on air-conditioned cars. It is secured with black oxide pan head Phillips screws with the attaching ears on the backside of the cluster." (italics/bold/underline of "through" and "on" is in the JG)

    I'm not sure what the emphasis or difference between "through" for the outboard and "on" for the inboard location means.

    There is a photo looking up at the switch from below, the ears are not visible, just the Phillips screw heads are seen on either side of the headlight motor switch. FWIW, the photo in the 66JG is of a non-C60 car, with the edge of the Hood Release button visible immediately to the right of the headlight motor switch.

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    • Kenneth B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1984
      • 2084

      #17
      Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

      Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
      Ken,

      In Nick's picture above (post 9), isn't that the Trip Odomoeter reset knob below and forward of the (side view) of the headlight motor switch? If so, it doesn't look like there's any interference between the two.
      Why would they mount AC switches different. I see the other slot with the 2 screw holes but I see no reason to move it.
      65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
      What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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      • Scott S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 11, 2009
        • 1961

        #18
        Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

        Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
        Why would they mount AC switches different. I see the other slot with the 2 screw holes but I see no reason to move it.
        Ken,

        I don't know why they would move it. UPC 12-B4 shows the headlight motor switch on what appears to be the LH side of the dash cluster. The drawing on C60-E7 (applicable in 1966 AIM, shows as "canceled" in the 1967 AIM) clearly shows the headlight motor switch moved to the inboard slot immediately left of the steering column. Both the 66JG and 67JG say the headlight motor switch should be at the inboard location for cars with C60.

        I located a picture of my dash cluster before it was removed from the car (Jan. 11 built L79 coupe w/C60), FWIW, the switch was next to the steering column. I'm not sure when the AIMs were first made available, but this car has been in the family since 1976 and was not driven since 1993, and my father did not have a 67 AIM, so he couldn't have moved it due to the AIM drawing.
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        • Clark K.
          Expired
          • January 12, 2009
          • 536

          #19
          Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

          I have a '65 Coupe with factory C-60 (A/C). The headlight switch was in the incorrect position when I bought it. The NCRS JG for 1965s straightened it out for me: "The headlight motor operating switch is mounted on the far left slot on the bottom of the instrument cluster on non A/C cars and on the inboard slot on air conditioned cars. It is secured with black oxide pan-head Phillips screws with the attaching ears on the backside of the cluster."

          The first photo shows the headlight switch in the outboard position, which is incorrect since it apparently interferes with the A/C outlet. The second photo shows the headlight switch in the correct, inboard position. -Clark
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          • Nick C.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 1998
            • 542

            #20
            Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

            As to why...

            Mild condensation has been observed on the LH C60 cabin outlet during extended operation on exceptionally hot, humid days.

            Just a WAG... perhaps to keep the switch and contacts dry as possible?

            Were ALL C60 clusters done this way?

            Who really knows? Observation indicates believed original C60 '67s during a certain time fame likely were.

            The image posted was part of a September 2010 discussion on the same subject.

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            • Larry M.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 1, 1992
              • 2688

              #21
              Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

              Originally posted by Scott Smith (50839)
              Ken,

              I don't know why they would move it. UPC 12-B4 shows the headlight motor switch on what appears to be the LH side of the dash cluster. The drawing on C60-E7 (applicable in 1966 AIM, shows as "canceled" in the 1967 AIM) clearly shows the headlight motor switch moved to the inboard slot immediately left of the steering column. Both the 66JG and 67JG say the headlight motor switch should be at the inboard location for cars with C60.

              I located a picture of my dash cluster before it was removed from the car (Jan. 11 built L79 coupe w/C60), FWIW, the switch was next to the steering column. I'm not sure when the AIMs were first made available, but this car has been in the family since 1976 and was not driven since 1993, and my father did not have a 67 AIM, so he couldn't have moved it due to the AIM drawing.

              Scott:

              The headlight switch on my late March 1967 factory air car is INBOARD as you and others have described. Car is low mile (26,000 miles) and fairly original. It is a convertible with VIN 14845.

              Larry

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              • Kenneth B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1984
                • 2084

                #22
                Re: How to move the headlight motor switch to the right slot on an A/C car

                I get the feeling like other things some AC clusters had the switch outboard & some inboard. Was the headlight switch mounted after the cluster was instaled in the dash or before? My cluster & dash hase never been removed & I see no evidence of anything ever mounted to the inboard slot.
                65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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