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  • Clark K.
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    • January 12, 2009
    • 536

    #16
    Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

    Originally posted by Tim Schuetz (17356)
    Clark, where do you live and how far are you willing to travel? Tim
    I live in Arlington, Texas. I am willing to trailer my car anywhere in the continental U.S. Why?

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    • Clark K.
      Expired
      • January 12, 2009
      • 536

      #17
      Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

      Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
      Key answer: we will never know, and it really doesn't matter.
      As has been mentioned and calculated here previously due the many options available on Corvettes almost any car could be a one-of-one to one-of-five type of car. As a result the term "rare" for midyear option combinations is quite meaningless.
      Patrick, you can't be serious. I am not writing about a rare ugly color or similar. Rare desireable option combinations don't matter? Meaningless? There are many NCRS members, and others, who think just having a Corvette with certain options makes their car rare (L88 option, big brakes option, big tank option, etc.). I realize that 1965 Corvette Coupes are not rare (8,186 built). It is the optional equipment on them that can make them rare.

      I re-read my original post and follow-up, and it DOES sound egotistical. Sorry. I guess I deserved the negative remarks. What I meant to do was simply ask others for their Amelia Island experiences.
      -Clark

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11608

        #18
        Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

        Originally posted by Clark Kirby (49862)
        Patrick, you can't be serious. I am not writing about a rare ugly color or similar. Rare desireable option combinations don't matter? Meaningless? There are many NCRS members, and others, who think just having a Corvette with certain options makes their car rare (L88 option, big brakes option, big tank option, etc.). I realize that 1965 Corvette Coupes are not rare (8,186 built). It is the optional equipment on them that can make them rare.

        I re-read my original post and follow-up, and it DOES sound egotistical. Sorry. I guess I deserved the negative remarks. What I meant to do was simply ask others for their Amelia Island experiences.
        -Clark
        Clark,

        Yes, I was serious.
        I've noticed that you rarely ( ) mention your car without inserting the word "rare" in describing it.
        It's gotten quite old, at least to me, thus my original response above.
        Don't get me wrong - it's a nicely optioned car with a great combination of options. But I don't think we need to be constantly reminded of its rarity, whether real or perceived.

        I'll get off my soapbox now.

        Patrick
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Jim A.
          Expired
          • December 4, 2009
          • 6

          #19
          Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          Clark,

          Yes, I was serious.
          I've noticed that you rarely ( ) mention your car without inserting the word "rare" in describing it.
          It's gotten quite old, at least to me, thus my original response above.
          Don't get me wrong - it's a nicely optioned car with a great combination of options. But I don't think we need to be constantly reminded of its rarity, whether real or perceived.

          I'll get off my soapbox now.

          Patrick
          I'll jump in quickly to note that, rare or not, all C2's are Sting Rays.

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          • George J.
            Very Frequent User
            • March 1, 1999
            • 774

            #20
            Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

            Clark,
            and, honestly, that combination of options is not desireable to me. I would never have considered buying a mid year with air, when I was looking for a car. I didn't want a 365hp car, either. I fully admit, and accept, that many are not interested in fuel injected cars, as I am.
            We in the Corvette world need to realize that the other 99% of people that attend shows like Amelia, Meadowbrook, or Pebble Beach look at all Corvettes as the same, no matter what options, unless there is some significant race history, or such.

            George

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            • Jaime G.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 1, 1988
              • 480

              #21
              Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

              Clark,
              its a great oportunity to display your car in a great venue. If accepted by all means, go!
              You will look back at the experience with great joy and pride.
              Best of Luck!

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              • Clark K.
                Expired
                • January 12, 2009
                • 536

                #22
                Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                Originally posted by Jaime Gesundheit (12617)
                Clark, its a great oportunity to display your car in a great venue. If accepted by all means, go! You will look back at the experience with great joy and pride. Best of Luck!
                Thanks, Jaime. I remember you from the San Diego National. Your last name is very distinctive! I have decided to submit my car for consideration. I have no way of telling whether they will accept my car, or not. We'll see. I have attached my submission in case anyone wants to know what the selection committee requires other than two photos.
                -Clark
                Attached Files

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                • Jimmy G.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 1, 1979
                  • 975

                  #23
                  Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                  So I would suspect that a 1965 365 coupe with A/C, and every other option including a 36 gallon tank would be fairly rare then???
                  Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #24
                    Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                    Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                    So I would suspect that a 1965 365 coupe with A/C, and every other option including a 36 gallon tank would be fairly rare then???
                    Jimmy -

                    Now you're talking about mine - dragged it out of the back row, buried in a snow-covered used car lot in Sharon, PA in the winter of 1970, hauled it home to Canfield, Ohio and spent two years restoring it. Glen Green, 365hp, A/C, big tank, black leather, tele, teak, PB, PW, 4.11 axle. Sold it in 1974 at a Mahoning Valley Corvette Club car show to a guy in bib overalls who had a fat roll of cash and had to have the car. I think it's in Colorado now.

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                    • Clark K.
                      Expired
                      • January 12, 2009
                      • 536

                      #25
                      Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                      Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                      So I would suspect that a 1965 365 coupe with A/C, and every other option including a 36 gallon tank would be fairly rare then???
                      I guess you will have to ask Patrick Hulst since he seems to be the authority on "rare". :-)

                      As for me, yes, it would be a rare-optioned car with all those options installed at the factory.
                      -Clark

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                      • Don H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 1, 1981
                        • 1482

                        #26
                        Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                        I would not say Patrick is an authority on what is rare. I would say he had an opinion on your posts (which I agree with). I was a judge of your car at a Texas Regional and it is a nice car. I also have a red/red '65 coupe but mine is so rare that GM never made it - Fuel Injection with AC, PS, PB, Teak, Tele, Leather, Cruise Control, KO's, and Powerglide. BUT this will be the first and last post that I refer to it as rare. I have probably said too much. Good luck with your application. Don H.
                        Attached Files

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                        • Robert R.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 31, 1975
                          • 358

                          #27
                          Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                          Don,

                          VERY COOL picture of your engine compartment!
                          That does look great to see an AC compressor with the Fuel unit.
                          Curious as to what type of Cruise Control you used. Was is a GM period style or modern aftermarket?
                          Could not tell from your picture.

                          Bob

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                          • Tim S.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 31, 1990
                            • 697

                            #28
                            Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                            Originally posted by Clark Kirby (49862)
                            I live in Arlington, Texas. I am willing to trailer my car anywhere in the continental U.S. Why?
                            I am involved with the Milwaukee Masterpiece and for 2013, we are featuring Corvette for it's 60th.

                            Here is a little information on the show. PM me if you are interested.

                            The Milwaukee Masterpiece® is a collection of classic vehicles owned by Leon Flagg and Curt Lamon.


                            Thanks,

                            Tim

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                            • Jimmy G.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 1, 1979
                              • 975

                              #29
                              Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                              JohnGreen Green Leather Different car. I think your old car makes 3THere is a rarer car soon coming to NCRS65 tanker 365 DRUM BRAKES Now that is the definition of rare
                              Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                              • Michael J.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • January 27, 2009
                                • 7073

                                #30
                                Re: Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance

                                Originally posted by Clark Kirby (49862)
                                I am interested in entering my rare-optioned National-level Top Flight '65 Sting Ray in the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, to be held next March. The deadline for entries is 10-1-12. My car would be entered into the "SC3 Class" (Sports and GT Cars: '63-'72).

                                My question to fellow NCRS members is: what experiences have you had with the application process and if you have had your car selected, was it worth the trouble?
                                -Clark
                                I am not familiar with that D'Elegance show, but my experience with several of this type is that unless your car is directly out of the top of the line restoration shop, with no miles, or any signs of being driven, and everything is shiny (including door jams and drip rails BTW) and brand new parts, and the paint is a mile deep with enough paint for 12 cars, you have little chance of winning or probably even placing in these events. Most all the cars are museum pieces, towed by golf cart from the Reliable Transporter (so as not to discolor the exhaust and intake manifolds as one participant told me at a similar show) and some have never been started since restoration. Last year, at the Santa Fe Concorso show I entered my 98+ point Top Flight '67 L71, and my '68 Shelby GT500KR, MCA Gold Driven Concours winner at the Lone Star Nationals, and neither placed on anything except the mountain road course tour I did with my '67. Needless to say nobody in my class took the mountain road course tour, I suspect the cars wouldn't run long enough to finish. The winner at that show in my class (American Iron), was a '64 FI SWC with a brilliant deep, BC/CC silver blue paint job so far from NCRS standards it wasn't funny. Everything on the car was brand new, and totally unused. It also was never driven or started in the last several years according to the owner. If your car is selected, great, as with all these shows that by itself is an accomplishment, just go and enjoy the upper crustery of the car world where a few million $$ won't get you very much car.
                                Good luck, I would go for it.
                                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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