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  • Bruce N.
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    • March 23, 2008
    • 83

    Block Valuation help

    I'm trying to figure out the value of a 350 block that is still in its original shipping crate. The Pad number is CE 0A262 32. It also has an A 170 date code which I believe is Jan. 17, 1970. It is still owned by the original owner. He had planned on using it in a 1969 that he had, but the original motor out lived the car. It has been sitting under a work bench for 42 years. Thanks for any help. Bruce
  • Michael W.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1997
    • 4290

    #2
    Re: Block Valuation help

    Casting number?
    Bare block (case)?

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    • Bruce N.
      Expired
      • March 23, 2008
      • 83

      #3
      Re: Block Valuation help

      Michael,
      Thank you for responding. I'm not sure about the casting number but I believe he said it was something like 101, also forgot to post that it is a four bolt block. It's just a bare block in the crate. He also said it had some windage tray bolts in an attached compartment in the crate.

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      • Michael G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 1, 1997
        • 1251

        #4
        Re: Block Valuation help

        Originally posted by Bruce Noland (48784)
        Michael,
        Thank you for responding. I'm not sure about the casting number but I believe he said it was something like 101, also forgot to post that it is a four bolt block. It's just a bare block in the crate. He also said it had some windage tray bolts in an attached compartment in the crate.
        Most likely a 010 block worth ultimately worth what someone is willing to pay. A ton of 010 blocks out there....two and four bolt configuration.

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        • Michael W.
          Expired
          • April 1, 1997
          • 4290

          #5
          Re: Block Valuation help

          If it is a Flint 0010 block and dated Jan 17 1970 then it would be suitable for a car built from late Jan 1970 onwards up to possibly the end of 1970 MY production. Someone wanting to restore a car from that time frame and willing to accept a 50 point loss for the pad would probably pay top dollar. Other than that, it's just another 40 year old block, maybe worth a few hundred dollars.

          I guess this is an illustration of why CE blocks don't get special dispensation in Flight Judging.

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          • Michael G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 1, 1997
            • 1251

            #6
            Re: Block Valuation help

            Originally posted by Dave Perry (19643)
            Would a bare block be stamped as a "Chevrolet Engine"? My understanding is that bare blocks were just a part, and had a blank pad. Not an assembly that would be stamped at an engine assy plant.

            This sounds like a complete service engine (CE) that was later stripped to a bare block. Whether it was run or not when it was a complete short or long block engine...

            The replacement block in my '68 Z-28 bares a CE stamp. Many of the parts from the original engine were transferred over to the replacement block, head (only one made it), intake, carb, valve covers, exhaust manifolds.....nonetheless most of the internals were new.....however these knuckleheads did reuse of the internals. I base this on the warranty paper work. From what I see (stamping on block)appears block came in as a block only.

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            • Bruce N.
              Expired
              • March 23, 2008
              • 83

              #7
              Re: Block Valuation help

              Thanks for the responses. I just looked up CE and found out it stands for counter exchange. This means the block is not worth as much as a non CE block..correct? 50 points seems like a lot.

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              • Michael G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 1, 1997
                • 1251

                #8
                Re: Block Valuation help

                Originally posted by Bruce Noland (48784)
                Thanks for the responses. I just looked up CE and found out it stands for counter exchange. This means the block is not worth as much as a non CE block..correct? 50 points seems like a lot.
                I believe you'll discover all Chevrolet warranty engines had the CE designation. Yours....apparently has this distinction. As far as worth will be determined by the person whose need for a CE block that has the right casting code and casting date they desire. To the next guy it's just an engine.

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                • Michael W.
                  Expired
                  • April 1, 1997
                  • 4290

                  #9
                  Re: Block Valuation help

                  CE is Chevrolet Engine, not 'counter engine'. Having a CE stamp (to me) is no better no worse than a blank pad. 50 point deduct is pretty minor in a 4500 point judging system and is equivalent to a burnt out lamp and a non-functioning cigar lighter during OPs check.

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: Block Valuation help

                    Typically, "CE" block assemblies were furnished either as short blocks or as "fitted" blocks (no crank or rods, just pistons, pins, and rings). This one was made at Flint V-8 in 1970, when they were into the "second round" past their assigned block of "CE" numbers.

                    My '69 Z/28 also has an 010 "CE" warranty replacement 4-bolt short block, installed in June, 1970; the block and one cylinder head were replaced, and all the other bolt-on parts were transferred from the failed engine.

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                    • Peter S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 28, 2012
                      • 327

                      #11
                      Re: Block Valuation help

                      So the stamp pad surface finish is still judged for correctness? Where the CE pads prepared the same as a pad that was receiving a VIN?

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                      • Michael W.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1997
                        • 4290

                        #12
                        Re: Block Valuation help

                        AFAIK, all blocks went through the broaching operation irrespective of end usage. The pad surface is judged independantly of the stamped characters.

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