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[Scott S.]

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Don Sorry for throughing you off please read my erly post I made A BIG mastakeI nposted my car was produced in Dec 7 of 72 But it was Dec 7 71 acording to NCRS datd report. Sorry for the confution.

[Scott S.]

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Don I would love to read that article on how to restore this liner, Could you please repot it or e-mail it to me Thanks for your help and everyone else.

[Paul O.]

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Here are 3 Bins that I have the first is dated (3 9 23 71). 2nd (2 3 12 71) The third is (2 2 7 70) stamped 3 times.

From the ones I have seen with original dates the sequence my opinion is Shift/Month/Day/Year

[Don L.]

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Thanks for posting Paul. I see a mark on at least one of your photos that's very similar to a mark on Alan's bin. Should we ASSume that this mark is from the jack head being against the bottom of the tray? I don't have this mark on mine and don't know why if it's indeed from the jack.

Scott, share your email address with me (PM if you want to). I have a pdf of the Restorer article and will send it to you.

[Terry M.]

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Don,
If you are talking about the marks on the tray shown in the third photo -- my guess would be those marks are from the jack. They should result in a minor condition deduction during judging.

IIRC the jack has to be installed in the proper orientation -- that is with the hex screw end facing the proper direction -- or it doesn't nestle into the depression in the floor properly and it is held a little high in the compartment. The result is the marks you see. That is likely the reason later C3s have the shorter trays. It only took how many years to see that potential defect and cure it?

Edit add: See this photo in posting #3 for the proper jack orientation

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...ft-relay-mount

[Alan S.]

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Hi,
The AIM UPC 14, Sheet C1, shows the jack installed with the higher end of the pad (hex bolt end of the jack) towards the front/center of the car.
The jack base will fit the depressions in the compartment floor when placed in either direction.
The tray obviously fits only one way.
The jack was never out of the compartment until I started it's restoration. It must have been in the compartment facing towards the rear in order to make the mark on the tray bottom where it appears. ?!?
Is there any reason to know if the jacks were placed randomly? There's GOT to be something better to do than track jack placement.
Regards,
Alan

[Reba W.]

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The sequence is as Don said--shift, month, day year. All that I have seen have more spacing between the month and year. I would almost bet that this is a restamp. Compare the font to Paul's, Alan's, and Don's originals.

BTW the explanation of the code is in the new 1968-69 JG with the caveat that originals have been found undated.

[Paul O.]

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I have a reason to suspect that most times the damage to the bottom of the bin is caused by;

1. To much weight in the bin causing the edge flap breaking thus the bin sags.

2. Water from rain, washing car and etc: causing the same condition but less weight.

3. Jack in the incorrect position.

[Scott S.]

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Reba, How can YOU be shure?. The man I got this from has a very good repution for busines and said it was in storage for atleast 20 yrs, I dont think he would restamp it Not that it isen't a possabilty ( anything is) But he probably would of ask alot more for it then what I payed for it. Don's, Alan's and Paul's seams to be consistant for there years, But could of change at the end of 71 and beginning of 72,( different people stamping, New stamp,different ink pad,etc ) A lot of possibilitys I think WE NEED to see more of these to make a better judgement, We all ready established the sequeance.

[Dave S.]

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I have a reason to suspect that most times the damage to the bottom of the bin is caused by;

1. To much weight in the bin causing the edge flap breaking thus the bin sags.

2. Water from rain, washing car and etc: causing the same condition but less weight.

3. Jack in the incorrect position.

Just to keep this thread active I've attached 3 photos of known originals. One from a July 1970 car, one from a May 1971 car and one from a July 1971 car. I'm not convinced that the photo that Scott posted is that of a re-stamped tray. JMHO.

[Paul O.]

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Scott

I think this is an assumption on my part what Reba is saying. Your bin date is very clean and uniform from what we see most of the time this in turn creates a judge to look deeper. Reba and I are only suggesting from a single view point that the bin date is telling us to look deeper your bin could be original but looking at this one area suggest it may no be.

[Terry M.]

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Keep this up. I am becoming more and more convinced we made the right call in 1993 when we omitted any reference to the date in the 1970-72 manual.

[Reba W.]

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I have been asked many times in judging what the numbers on the bottom mean. I feel it should be addressed in the JG since we now know how to decode it.

As mentioned previously, the new 1968-69 JG contains the caveat that NOT ALL boxes had dates and no deduction is to be made if appears never to have been present. Of course, I have found some that had the numbers scratched off or defaced to prevent their reading.

And after enlarging Scott's picture, I do agree with Dave's assessment.

[Scott S.]

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Good Morrning Every one, Every one sleep well? or was you thinking boxes allnight I was LOL. Well I got more photo for you to look at.067.jpg068.jpg069.jpg070.jpg More to come.

[Scott S.]

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072.jpg073.jpg074.jpg075.jpg Sorry so long it only lets you put 4 photos at a time. Ok what do you think ?.