There was a recent thread which got into a discussion of batteries. I forgot to mention there that there is another fairly new line of batteries out there that I discovered a few months ago. In addition to the Odyssey Batteries I mentioned in that thread, I believe these batteries are not manufactured by one of the major battery manufacturers that supply most of the other batteries on the market today. These batteries have a brand name of "Volt Edge" and are supplied by a company called FVP Parts (www.fvpparts.com). The interesting thing about these batteries is they have a "smooth top" with no recessed filler caps AND they have a "Delco Eye". I have not seen a "Delco Eye" in any battery since Delco and DELPHI ceased manufacturing batteries. I'm kind of expecting that FVP may have purchased one of the DELPHI battery manufacturing operations and that's why they have the old Delco features and configuration.
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delco eye concept kinda of useless since it really only measured one cell, have seen many that were green that had dead cells, only three companies that make batteries that I know of, outside of china, FVP, excide and johnson controls, most made in mexico. i think, but not completely sure, FVP made in southeast asia.Michael
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Was the "Delco Eye" designed to be moved to any cell ?
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On the older batteries with plugs that could be removed to add water the "delco eye" could be moved from cell to cell. On the "maintenance free" later versions position is fixed, but really it only functioned to check electrolyte level, even in the earlier versions.Bill Clupper #618Comment
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You forgot East Penn!
We know for sure that Johnson Controls, Exide, and East Penn make some of their starting batteries in the U.S. They also have operations in Canada and Mexico, as well as other countires.
While this list is not detailed enough, it is relatively accurate (although old). For example, it does not reflect the fact that Douglas is owned by East Penn and FVP is not shown. The list is further down.
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Michael----
Yes, the "Delco Eye" has always been pretty much useless. However, the point is I've never seen it on a non-Delco battery and, since the end of Delco and DELPHI battery manufacturing, I have not seen it on any Delco-branded battery.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Back in the day when I did a tour or two with the guys on the GM "Railhead Audit" team, The delco eye was very helpful in identifing a "total electrical failure" No-Start. If it had a "white eye" battery, look for whatever the shipping loaders had left on, usually interior lamps...Bill Clupper #618Comment
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Always thought "delco eye" is a hydrometer and measures the specific gravity of the acid in the battery.
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Actually you are correct as to the green-black mode, but there was also a "white eye" mode for full discharge, at least in the early-mid 80'sBill Clupper #618Comment
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Ah yes, Deka, the one year (if you are lucky) batteries. Cheap in price and short on life. Had a parts manager that decided that Delco batteries were too expensive and switched to Deka. We went from over a 48 month average life to less than two years.You forgot East Penn!
We know for sure that Johnson Controls, Exide, and East Penn make some of their starting batteries in the U.S. They also have operations in Canada and Mexico, as well as other countires.
While this list is not detailed enough, it is relatively accurate (although old). For example, it does not reflect the fact that Douglas is owned by East Penn and FVP is not shown. The list is further down.
http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/batbrand.htmDick WhittingtonComment
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Everybody has a battery story.... In 1976 I bought a JC Penny "Guaranteed Forever" battery for my 1960 driver.... Best $59 I ever spent! Just a few months ago I had the # 7 replacement installed! This last one was an Interstate, and it actually last 127 months... The shortest was in the early days at 36 months. They are a whole lot better at making batteries now than they were in 1976!Comment
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I too bought a JC Penny Forever battery in 1976. It lasted 6 years, and the one they replaced it with looked the same, except that it had no markings. By the time it died Penny had sold it's service centers to Firestone during one of their bankruptcies. I had moved but Firestone honored the warranty, and I brought the old one to the service center and they gave me a new one. I don't remember the brand but I think it had a Firestone label. The two after that were Interstate and the store made me bring the car in to test the charging system (at their expense). The last one they made me go to the Penny store and fill out a bunch of paperwork. It's now dead and I'm probably through since my car will be judged when I finish it and the Firestone grease monkeys are not going anywhere near it.
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That was my fleet experience with Deka. Bought a Carquest battery, it lasted less than two years, when I took it back I was complaining about it to the store manager. Told him it was as sorry as a Deka. Little did I know that Deka was making their batteries and the Deka sales rep in the store and listening to our conversation. To say the least, he was not pleased.Dick WhittingtonComment
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