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  • Hebert K.
    Infrequent User
    • September 5, 2011
    • 28

    Engine block stamp pad

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  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    Re: Engine block stamp pad

    Herb, There are many Pic,s in the Archives on engine stamps. double stamps did happen. I am not a stamp expert , so will let those that have been there before comment.
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    • Mike M.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1974
      • 8365

      #3
      Re: Engine block stamp pad

      its difficult to image how just the "J" was double stamped and the E wasn't. mike

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      • Monte M.
        Expired
        • January 1, 1991
        • 687

        #4
        Re: Engine block stamp pad

        At a glance, it looks like it was a "JF". Then a heavy bottom line on the bottom of the "E". I do not understand the "J" only double as Mike said. When something looks a bit off.......
        It just happens to be a 67/435?

        Best of luck.

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        • Tom D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 30, 1981
          • 2126

          #5
          Re: Engine block stamp pad

          Perhaps "J" is double because someone came back and "fixed" it with a single punch.
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          • Tom D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 30, 1981
            • 2126

            #6
            Re: Engine block stamp pad

            Why would anyone do such a poor job, if it's "fake"?
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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7073

              #7
              Re: Engine block stamp pad

              Originally posted by Tom Dingman (4889)
              Why would anyone do such a poor job, if it's "fake"?
              True, many times judges object to it being "too perfect", sloppiness is a virtue.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Gary S.
                Super Moderator
                • February 1, 1984
                • 456

                #8
                Re: Engine block stamp pad

                Top picture is the poster's. Bottom picture is of a known original stamp of a 67 "JE" full award car. The poster's over-stamped "J" looks to be a different size (hook at bottom is not as wide) as an original. The "J" underneath appears to be the correct size, configuration and spacing of an original. Broach marks look real enough. Even the one I have attached shows double strike on the assembly date and the vin stamp. Maybe a picture of higher resolution, paint removed from characters and cleaner pad would reveal more.
                67 T0112JE NCRSTDB.jpg

                67 T0112JE.jpg
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                • Hebert K.
                  Infrequent User
                  • September 5, 2011
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Re: Engine block stamp pad

                  So is that what would have been done?
                  A single overstamp on a "bad" first stamp?

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                  • Daniel Y.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • September 30, 2002
                    • 185

                    #10
                    Re: Engine block stamp pad

                    I believe a better picture of this shot as Gary has suggested would help as well as the VIN derivative also. it appears that there may be an issue with the "E as well. is it slightly miss aligned? originally all of these were in a gang and struck with one blow. the "E" should be in same plane. Having said that - they all appear to be struck with a low bottom hit. that may be why only the bottom part of the "J" was showing at first. it could be a correction.
                    Dan Young

                    65, 67 Duntov x2
                    66 bowtie x 2
                    71 LT1 TF
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                    • Hebert K.
                      Infrequent User
                      • September 5, 2011
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: Engine block stamp pad

                      I will clean up the pad and try to get a better picture although my camera is not a very good one.
                      If need be I will see if I can borrow a better camera.
                      Thanks,
                      Herb

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                      • Russ S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 30, 1982
                        • 2161

                        #12
                        Re: Engine block stamp pad

                        Originally posted by Gary Seymour (7140)
                        Top picture is the poster's. Bottom picture is of a known original stamp of a 67 "JE" full award car. The poster's over-stamped "J" looks to be a different size (hook at bottom is not as wide) as an original. The "J" underneath appears to be the correct size, configuration and spacing of an original. Broach marks look real enough. Even the one I have attached shows double strike on the assembly date and the vin stamp. Maybe a picture of higher resolution, paint removed from characters and cleaner pad would reveal more.
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]44078[/ATTACH]

                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]44077[/ATTACH]
                        This "known original" has two double stamps. The E and the 8. I'm not a expert on stamp pads so I guess I am also asking a question. What is the difference between the OPs pad and this one if his is bad and this known original id OK?

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                        • Pat M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 2006
                          • 1575

                          #13
                          Re: Engine block stamp pad

                          Originally posted by Tom Dingman (4889)
                          Why would anyone do such a poor job, if it's "fake"?
                          Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                          True, many times judges object to it being "too perfect", sloppiness is a virtue.
                          I'm sure this has crossed counterfeiters' minds once or twice. Not commenting on the subject pad, just sayin'.

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                          • Gene M.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1985
                            • 4232

                            #14
                            Re: Engine block stamp pad

                            I’m looking at the two photos Gary has side by side. And I see both these big blocks were built on the same day. I would expect both the build stampings to look the same as in the same stamper used. The stamp the original poster shared is different from the stamp Gary has. The 0 is slanted in the posters pad. Gary’s is straight up. The 4th digit in the posters appears to be a “1”. Gary’s 4th digit appears to be a “I”.
                            Look close and you will see the kerfs top and bottom on the 1 and I are longer than Gary’s.
                            Deck surface looks convincing.

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                            • Chris H.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • April 1, 2000
                              • 837

                              #15
                              Re: Engine block stamp pad

                              It appears that the bottom of the double stamp J has 2 different radii.
                              1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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