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  • Monte M.
    Expired
    • January 1, 1991
    • 687

    A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

    I was just wondering if any of you have seen the "numbers matching" (White) Split Window for sale on a big auction site. It has a few issue that I am not sure about.

    Would the work stoppage, that happened in late 1962, make a car vin #1050XX a "D3", when vin #1033XX is a "C2". Was there that much down time during that month period. (Remember: on 63's it is the month and the week, not the month and the day)
    The car says the "Z-Bar has been repaired" The block is very strange, but I was wondering what you thing about the production weeks of these cars being correct.

    The engine is a bit off and I have not been able to find anything similar there at all. vin 1050XX.jpg
  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 2005
    • 2027

    #2
    Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

    Something a little off, so here is the 63 data from Grenning/Sinor book.
    Note it is month, letter code, total made that month, last VIN # of month (charts sometimes change when posted)
    ........letter..total.... last VIN
    Oct .... B.... 2081.... 2756
    Nov ....C ....1291 ....4047
    Dec ....D ....1925.... 5972

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    • Paul J.
      Expired
      • September 9, 2008
      • 2091

      #3
      Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

      Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)
      I was just wondering if any of you have seen the "numbers matching" (White) Split Window for sale on a big auction site. It has a few issue that I am not sure about.

      Would the work stoppage, that happened in late 1962, make a car vin #1050XX a "D3", when vin #1033XX is a "C2". Was there that much down time during that month period. (Remember: on 63's it is the month and the week, not the month and the day)
      The car says the "Z-Bar has been repaired" The block is very strange, but I was wondering what you thing about the production weeks of these cars being correct.

      The engine is a bit off and I have not been able to find anything similar there at all.
      I assume that you are talking about the one that sold for $39k.

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      • Monte M.
        Expired
        • January 1, 1991
        • 687

        #4
        vin 1050XX.jpgFrom what you have there, it looks fine. It shows a "D3" on the trim tag. The #1050XX seems to hit right in the middle of the month. It is actually nine hundred and a few before the last number for that month. The fact that the blurb does mention work to the Z-Bar being done caught my attention. The trim tag seems alright to me, at this point. But for some reason,it makes you think.

        The real question is the vin derivative font is larger or maybe the same size as the buils date and engine code font. Plus, the derivative is stamped one at a time almost in a row.

        QUOTE: "I was just wondering if any of you have seen the "numbers matching" (White) Split Window for sale on a big auction site."

        Paul,

        I could not find a white one anywhere that sold for $39,000.

        The one I am speaking of is for sale for $79,000, if I am not mistaken.

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

          Run Forrest, run!
          Dick Whittington

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          • Timothy B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 30, 1983
            • 5177

            #6
            Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

            I agree with Dick, none of this pad looks right to me. A third week December car does not have a engine with a August 30 build date. The engine in my second week November car is built 10/22.

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            • Mike E.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 24, 2012
              • 920

              #7
              Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

              What's wrong??? The number match...Isn't that all that matters?


              Mike

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              • Paul J.
                Expired
                • September 9, 2008
                • 2091

                #8
                Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)

                Paul,

                I could not find a white one anywhere that sold for $39,000.

                The one I am speaking of is for sale for $79,000, if I am not mistaken.
                The one that I'm thinking about is a white SWC 327/300 with several options. Bob Varsha ranted on and on about what a deal this car was and how it was the way to get into the Corvette hobby. They rolled it down the ramp at either $39k or $39.5k. I thought that it had sold for that.

                Oh, you mean that it's on some site now. So much for good communication.

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                • Monte M.
                  Expired
                  • January 1, 1991
                  • 687

                  #9
                  Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                  Now that we all agree that something MIGHT have been done to the block, the actual numbers might just fall in line if they were real.

                  Tim, I have a second week November car, with an engine build date of 10/25, but the numbers on that car would actually work out alright.. There is that six month window for the blocks.

                  The work stoppage makes the December build date fit as well. It just feels way out of whack.

                  I just thought you guys would get a kick out of this "numbers matching" beauty.

                  EDIT: So the dates made sense.

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                    Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                    What's wrong??? The number match...Isn't that all that matters?


                    Mike
                    Don't forget the value impact of the celebrity factor involved - Stevie Wonder stamped the pad!

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                    • Erik S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 1, 2005
                      • 407

                      #11
                      Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                      Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                      Don't forget the value impact of the celebrity factor involved - Stevie Wonder stamped the pad!
                      Hahaha John. Good laughs from the other side of the pond

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                      • Dick W.
                        Former NCRS Director Region IV
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 10483

                        #12
                        Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                        Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                        Don't forget the value impact of the celebrity factor involved - Stevie Wonder stamped the pad!
                        Dick Whittington

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                        • Monte M.
                          Expired
                          • January 1, 1991
                          • 687

                          #13
                          Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                          The really funny thing is: I have talked the the seller. He seems to think there is nothing wrong with it. He says, there were a lot of variations in the 1963 Corvette. All kinds of things have shown up. on these cars.

                          The $70,000 price tag leads me to believe that he believes that, or that he is trying to get someone else to believe that.

                          Just thought you guys would get a kick out of it.

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                          • John D.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • December 1, 1979
                            • 5507

                            #14
                            Re: A Buyer Beware 1963 Split Window

                            You guys are bad. Can't you tell that the tool holder musta been wiped out and that's why the numbers are all over the place. Tru story.

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