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  • William P.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2003
    • 135

    67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

    Can anyone explain the description offered about this car and the NCRS judging story .



    Bill
  • Paul J.
    Expired
    • September 9, 2008
    • 2091

    #2
    Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

    Well, the first thing that I noticed was that it has a restoration engine and sold for too much money.

    Paul

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    • Roy S.
      Past National Judging Chairman
      • July 31, 1979
      • 1022

      #3
      Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

      Originally posted by William Purdy (40614)
      Can anyone explain the description offered about this car and the NCRS judging story .



      Bill
      This car was branded counterfeit for an altered casting date on the engine block and still is in the NCS system that has not changed, my view is a new owner just got screwed by this auctions words.

      As soon as I can figure out how to attach the branded counterfeit letter to a post I will attach it here. Have to give me a few before that happens. But I am working on it. I am truly surprised at the price it sold for and appalled at the way the description is worded. With that said it is becoming harder and harder to keep this stuff from happening and our words from being miss used.

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 27, 2009
        • 7073

        #4
        Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

        Well said Roy, "restoration engine" does and should have a distinct meaning, as should "counterfeit".
        But the claim that the "issue" of the casting date of the block has been corrected and it is now eligible once again for NCRS judging seems like a bald face lie, no?
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Jim D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 1985
          • 2882

          #5
          Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

          Originally posted by Paul Jordan (49474)
          Well, the first thing that I noticed was that it has a restoration engine and sold for too much money.

          Paul
          I agree. The "story" about the car has me scratching my head. I didn't know the NCRS did restorations and I've never heard of a car being suspended from judging and no longer eligible because of a casting date. Oh well. Somebody bought that line of B.S., and the car.

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          • Michael W.
            Expired
            • April 1, 1997
            • 4290

            #6
            Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

            Originally posted by Roy Sinor (2608)
            Have to give me a few before that happens.

            A six pack is on it's way.

            That advert and the story has got to be the slimiest of the slimeys..................

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

              Hmmmmm, I hope the appraiser has good E & O insurance and the owner and auction house are ready to refund money. Can we say major lawsuit in the making.?
              Dick Whittington

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              • Wayne M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1980
                • 6414

                #8
                Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                Originally posted by William Purdy (40614)
                Can anyone explain the description offered about this car and the NCRS judging story .



                Bill
                Me too -- I'm all ears for someone to translate into NCRS-speak the first paragraph and the first half of the second, in the description of the above link.

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                • Rick A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 2147

                  #9
                  Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                  Roy,

                  Is there anything "legally" we as an organization can do? The auction house et alia sure used "slanderous" words in my view - "the "issue" of the casting date of the block has been corrected as requested by the NCRS national judging chairman and it is now eligible once again for NCRS judging"
                  Rick Aleshire
                  2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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                  • Roy S.
                    Past National Judging Chairman
                    • July 31, 1979
                    • 1022

                    #10
                    Attached Files

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                      Here we go
                      Attached Files
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Rick A.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 2002
                        • 2147

                        #12
                        Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                        So, if I understand the letter sent to the owner, this is "NOT the first time there has been a discrepancy".......................hmmmmmmm, perhaps he should be asked to leave the organization? Just saying...............................
                        Rick Aleshire
                        2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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                        • Gene M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1985
                          • 4232

                          #13
                          Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                          Originally posted by Roy Sinor (2608)
                          Rick,

                          I’m not sure that I am in a position where I can answer your question; every time we defend ourselves in a situation like this it costs the organization money. Attorney opinions are not cheap these days. We as an organization cannot be the collector car police and frankly probably do not want to be, but we certainly should be able to defend ourselves when blatant misrepresentations are made. I have attached the branded counterfeit letter for this vehicle for review as I indicated I would in my earlier post.
                          I'm confused. Please explain, I do not understand why we, (NCRS) has any obligation due to transfer ownership or purchased Corvettes that would entail and "costs the organization money". Why would we (NCRS) need "Attorney opinions"?

                          I can't see where NCRS has anything to do with other people's ignorance in the purchase of any Corvette. NCRS is not the Corvette police as you stated.

                          thank you

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                          • Rick A.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 2002
                            • 2147

                            #14
                            Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                            Gene,

                            Obviously you are confused as to have NOT read the letter Roy attached. It infers that he, as the NCRS national judging chairman has now deemed the current block as now eligible for NCRS judging. Do NOT think that is what Roy stated in the letter, and I asked if this was something we should be concerned about from a legal view. Roy answered that getting an attorney's opinion on an issue such as this is expensive and I agree. Hope this makes sense to you.
                            Rick Aleshire
                            2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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                            • John S.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • May 4, 2008
                              • 424

                              #15
                              Re: 67 427 Restoration Block Car, $ 184,000.00 ?

                              Hard to argue with Rick's statement. Just my 2 cents.
                              John Seeley
                              67 Black/Teal
                              300 hp 3 speed coupe
                              65 Maroon/Black
                              35k mile Fuelie coupe

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