Delco Energizer Battery Caps - NOT Gang type
Starting in 1967 with the R-59 version of the battery, there were five push-in caps and Delco EYE to seal the individual cells. I've seen at least four versions of these caps with the variation being in the accent color of the raised 'eyebrows' on the push-in caps and the raised surfaces adjacent to the Delco EYE. The colors I've seen are: (1) natural black plastic without accent color, (2) red accent color, (3) green accent color, and (4) yellow accent color. A local Delco distributor said the color differences were a Delco warranty distinction. Comments?
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Thanks for the effort to do the look-up. I'll also check with a Denver local United Delco distributor who's been in business here since the 30's.
On there being no unpainted version of the cap, that can't be. My Chapter library copy of the 1967 Judging Guide (4th Edition, 2nd Printing) has a number of errata sheets in it and it INSISTS that the R59 batteries used in '67 Corvettes used both push-in caps AND Delco EYE caps that were plain black plastic (un-colored). Could it be that the NTL has been asleep at the switch on this one since 2005????
I know there's a new release of the book out (since the National Convention), but my Chapter copy is MIA... Does anyone know if it has been changed from a textual description basis in this area?Comment
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Please understand the NTL is not the person responsible for the judging guide content in entirety. A team works that. There has to enough submissions on an issue and verification. Sometimes that effort falls short........Comment
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This started because I'm going to run a judging school for my chapter soon. The issue/focus in on the proper use of the standard deduction tables in the Judging Reference Manual. The section on batteries essentially reads (heavy paraphrase here), take the physical description of the battery from the appropriate Judging Guide book and apply these deductions to it (0%, 10%, 30%, 50%, 100%) based on the degree of deviation you see from the JG descriptive text.
For 1967, both printings of the 4th Edition JG as well as the new 5th Edition book (I saw a copy today) state point blank the push-in caps and the Delco Eye are BLACK plastic. There is narry one word about highlighting color.
That said, the ONLY interpretation I can really teach is that EVERY Energizer E-5000, R-59 battery, whether it's a bona fide factory original or any one of the several versions of reproductions HAS to take a point deduction from NCRS judges who obey our rules. I don't really want to teach that, because it's WRONG!
I DID solve the cap color mystery though! I dropped by our local United Delco shop today and the owner was good enough to flip through his library on Delco Batteries. In a very old printed edition of the battery guide, it gave a table for 1965 and later batteries where the table described the color coding system used by Delco Remy. It defined FOUR discrete colors used to highlight the battery caps on the Energizer series of batteries.
Red= E5000, Yellow= E3000, Green= E1000, and Blue= E500.
Basically, the color coding denotes the designated cold cranking amperage range of the battery with red being the highest offering in the Delco Energizer family descending in lock-step (yellow, green, then blue) with blue having the lowest output range of the family. So, the 'mystery' is solved. And, that says there could NEVER have been an E5000 battery in a 1967 Corvette that did NOT have push-in caps and a Delco Eye without there being red accent coloring on them...Comment
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For 1967, both printings of the 4th Edition JG as well as the new 5th Edition book (I saw a copy today) state point blank the push-in caps and the Delco Eye are BLACK plastic. There is narry one word about highlighting color.
That said, the ONLY interpretation I can really teach is that EVERY Energizer E-5000, R-59 battery, whether it's a bona fide factory original or any one of the several versions of reproductions HAS to take a point deduction from NCRS judges who obey our rules. I don't really want to teach that, because it's WRONG!
I DID solve the cap color mystery though! I dropped by our local United Delco shop today and the owner was good enough to flip through his library on Delco Batteries. In a very old printed edition of the battery guide, it gave a table for 1965 and later batteries where the table described the color coding system used by Delco Remy. It defined FOUR discrete colors used to highlight the battery caps on the Energizer series of batteries.
Red= E5000, Yellow= E3000, Green= E1000, and Blue= E500.
Basically, the color coding denotes the designated cold cranking amperage range of the battery with red being the highest offering in the Delco Energizer family descending in lock-step (yellow, green, then blue) with blue having the lowest output range of the family. So, the 'mystery' is solved. And, that says there could NEVER have been an E5000 battery in a 1967 Corvette that did NOT have push-in caps and a Delco Eye without there being red accent coloring on them...[/QUOTE]
I'd like to know who leaked a 5th edition WORKING COPY to you and why you would state something that is not true. You will find the final revisions address your issue properly. Blowing off steam on the TDB is NOT the proper method to use to initiate a change and propose revisions to the CTIM&JG's for any judged year, but I'm certain you already know that, and are aware of the process. I never heard a peep from you about this or any issue. Thanks for waking me up off the switch, though...
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Yes, wrong time/place/forum for this drift of the thread to air. No comment.Comment
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With all due respect, I would be proud to have a person with your knowledge and talent on my judging and revision team... All you need do is let me know by official contact that you are up to the task. Ready to start on the 6th edition?Comment
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We've taken this part of the thread off-line...Comment
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