Lone Star Reg Bowtie Judging
I am taking my 62 up for Bowtie signoff in October to the Regional Meet. Saturday night I drove over to the local cruise in at Chick-Fil-A and the speedometer started jumping all over, then went all the way over to 160 and stopped. The odometer works just fine. Did something break in the speedo head? I don't want to touch anything before judging/Bowtie. Will it damage anything else by leaving it alone? Should I wait until after judging to get it repaired? I just read the very good tech article on cluster removal in my latest issue of On Solid Ground (Solid Axle Club magazine). I don't want to do anything to jeopordize the judging. Your thoughts?
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John, it doesn't have to operate for Bowtie judging, (the car doesn't even have to run for Bowtie judging) and it's not driven/checked for flight judging, only a Performance Verification, so it should be a moot point. You're the only person that will know it's not working. -
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Thanks Vinnie! I just don't want to mess anything up by trying to take it apart. I have read on the forum to don't mess with most stuff. It will be two years since last judged at the Lone Star meet and I have not touched much of anything on the car. I was unable to make either National convention since then.Comment
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If the speedometer needle has stopped at 160 mph that would be reasonably obvious to an Operations check judge and would merit a deduction during Operations judging, however, as Vinnie has said -- there is no Operations requirement for Bowtie judging -- only for Flight Judging. For the Bowtie Regional sign off there is a Flight Judging requirement, but I think the results of that Flight Judging don't matter toward the Bowtie process. I wish I had my Judging Reference Manual in hand to verify all that.TerryComment
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Gotcha covered Terry!
"Prior to acceptance for Star/Bowtie Judging at a National Convention, the candidate vehicle, under the same ownership, must be entered at an NCRS National of Regional Event for Flight Judging. At the time of registering for the event, the owner must note on his/her registration that this car is a Bowtie candidate. The owners must contact the appropriate National Team Leader and inform him of the intent to complete Flight Judging during the process or a desire to acquire only a Bowtie sign-off for the subject vehicle..."Comment
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The car had been signed off once already, but the owner couldn't make the convention it was signed off for...so he has to have it signed off again for the convention in KC next year.Comment
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Hey, John,
Just a thought. Would it be wise to disconnect the speedo cable at the cluster or tranny so it's not turning and possibly doing further damage?
LarryComment
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Judges, is it okay to do that?Comment
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Doing so would immediately make the mileage on the car suspect. Does that matter? You have to decide that. If it were mine I wouldn't do it, but it is your car -- do what you want.
Disclaimer: I don't judge too often any more. I just like to snoop around.
TerryComment
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, that is a good definition of an "Emeritus" position, I have some of those too in some areas. I think NCRS should have a place for Emeritus Judges, with a special designation at the events, and hat even.
Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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Hey, Terry,
Bowtie car, notwithstanding, how does anyone know whether or not a speedo cable has ever been disconnected on a '62? Not aware of any tamper-proof seal.
LarryComment
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John, the best advice to potential Bowtie car owners is...don't do anything. Don't try to fix the speedo, don't disconnect anything. Bowtie Judges may frown on these actions. Terry is correct...the Bowtie Candidate does not need to run, start, stop, steer, etc. DaveComment
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Thank you guys for your input. I will leave "as is"!Comment
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IIRC the prerequisite is that the car must be flight judged (third flight min.) prior to a Regional Bowtie Sign off (either before or at the same meet). At the regional sign off the flight judging can be waived.
However if you are attempting A Duntov with the same car you will have some decisions to make!Comment
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John - You have to stop driving soooooo fast thru the Chick-Fil-A parking lot.
Pete
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