1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

[Michael C.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Dan,

That's what I thought. I am waiting for the score sheets to check it out. I didn't think that you deducted any points on my glove box lockset. I appreciate you sharing the PV procedure and how and why mine would fail. Thank you for speaking with me and passing on your knowledge.

Mike C.

[Ronald C.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Dan,

That's what I thought. I am waiting for the score sheets to check it out. I didn't think that you deducted any points on my glove box lockset. I appreciate you sharing the PV procedure and how and why mine would fail. Thank you for speaking with me and passing on your knowledge.

Mike C.

just looked over mine, lost 6 points in ops to glove box tumbler, and to spare tire lock spare tire lock worked, but the ignition key fit into lock (did not turn) but because it fit in I lost points... I know only 6 points but saw quite a few deducts like that. (i.e. battery tar top was too hard.. Waite it is a tar top battery NOT a poly top). 7 points.... there must be 5 like that ... oh well I will get the keys/tumblers fixed before nationals. PV in FL in January...

[Chris E.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

I was one of the judges on ops 67 in Rochester and there was no deduction taken but noted on the sheets. We let owners know when we come across some items that pass operations may not pass on PV. In doing so, there is no false exceptions when a PV is done and a failure occurs.

This is absolutely the right approach in my opinion. The goal of judging is to help the owner achieve the award they want. If they are at Regionals, it is very possible they want to move on to a Mark of Excellence award, at which point you need to do a PV. Advising people ahead of time on what they might expect in PV is very helpful. It would have taken me more times to pass PV had I not had all that help.

[Chris E.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

I had my 67 judged at the MN regional. I am waiting on the judging sheets to be mailed back.

Mike,

I dropped the sheets in the mail last week. You should have them any day now.

[Ronald C.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Agree fully Chris the detail while on the borderline of PV during the Ops check was great info. it keeps me from ending my PV run early due to a simple think like a key... would have made the trip to Fl regional next year a lot of driving for nothing. It was a great experience to witness soo many PV at the MN regional. The experience and conversation with owners and judges beat the PV manual hands down. I now feel that with some work over the summer I have a chance to PV now..

[Chris E.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Ron, I'm happy to help too. Let me know what questions you have. Passed PV on my '67 in Dallas in 2011. You've got my email.

[James W.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Ron,

The tar was too hard?!?!?! What... was the finger nail impression not deap enough???

I just ordered a "real" tar top battery yesterday for my '64 that will be flight judged in KC. I was under the impression that a real tar top it would take a 0 point deduct?

See you in KC.


James West
Omaha, NE.

just looked over mine, lost 6 points in ops to glove box tumbler, and to spare tire lock spare tire lock worked, but the ignition key fit into lock (did not turn) but because it fit in I lost points... I know only 6 points but saw quite a few deducts like that. (i.e. battery tar top was too hard.. Waite it is a tar top battery NOT a poly top). 7 points.... there must be 5 like that ... oh well I will get the keys/tumblers fixed before nationals. PV in FL in January...

[Christopher P.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

Ron/James,
I am scrounging for every point and correcting all of the deductions from the previous owner's score sheets. I just installed a repro tar top to avoid that deduction and I really hope I don't have issues with it. That cost vs. deduction ratio was hard to justify but I bought it anyway. Ron, if you have more info on why that was a deduction (too hard?), please let us know. I will soften it with a hair dryer prior to judging if I have to.....
Chris

[Gary B.]

Re: 1967 Ops check- glove box lock/key

...I just ordered a "real" tar top battery yesterday for my '64 that will be flight judged in KC. I was under the impression that a real tar top it would take a 0 point deduct?....

James,

A "real" tar top battery, meaning one made in the 1960's should get no originality deduct, but it's my understanding, based on past DB threads, that a repro "real" tar top still has some detectable differences (like incorrect mold parting lines or too hard "tar") and will garner a deduct.

Just like repro tinted windshields, I don't believe there is any repro battery that will not get some points deduct, especially when critiqued by Master level judges at Regional or the National level.

Gary