Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

[Marc B.]

Hello all

My car is an early 1972 (LT-1 convt) built on August 17th 1971, VIN 500278. It is presently undergoing a full frame off restoration & I need to know what is the proper frame stencil location ? Judging manual is not precise, simply stating that ``sometime during production...it was moved forward...``

I know that 1971 & earlier C3s had it below the passerger door on the frame rail & that it was later moved up front of the body mount # 1 (I have info as 3 5/8 in. in front of mount # 1 and 1 1/2 in from bottom frame rail)

Is there a known cut down date (or VIN) on the stencil location moving up front ?

Thx for the help

[Edward J.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Marc, I remember this topic when I restored my 72 and I really do not believe the was any est. data at that time how ever the may have changed, My advice is to send a e-mail to the 70-72 Team leader Stan Falenski.

[Paul O.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Marc

As Ed stated we do not have a definitive date that the stencil for 1972 went from under the passengers door to the area of the frame behind the the left front wheel assy. We have seen some late 1971 cars with the stencil in both locations. Have you made an attempt to check both areas of the frame before you start striping the frame. My suggestion would be if you haven't striped the frame first

1. In a dimly lighted area using different light sources (flashlight standard bulb, halogen, Led etc. or a drop light etc.) and a magnifying glass at different angles see if any hint of the stencil remains. If unsuccessful then.
2. Using a paint thinner and a rag lightly and slowly try to remove and layers of paint and dirt to expose what may under those layers.

This is an item that we have not really logged and note as we should have been doing on Bowtie cars by VIN. We need to start doing this when myself and other Chassis judges are on these early unrestored cars. Another judge has noted that on a Oct. 72 car the stencil was located behind the front wheel so we have starting point now we need more examples of earlier cars. Hope that you can come up with a possible location for your car. A new quest has started. Sorry

[Patrick H.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Another judge has noted that on a Oct. 72 car the stencil was located behind the front wheel so we have starting point now we need more examples of earlier cars. Hope that you can come up with a possible location for your car. A new quest has started. Sorry

Paul,

You mean Oct 71.
VIN 07564

[Paul O.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Patrick

Thanks for picking up my error should read a 1972 car built Oct. 1971.

[Dave S.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Patrick

Thanks for picking up my error should read a 1972 car built Oct. 1971.

Paul,
My July 1971 built car (VIN # 21467) has the frame stencil up front just behind the right front wheel. Actually it has two frame stencils next to each other.

[Edward J.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Paul, Actually it has two frame stencils next to each other.

Dave, You'll have to stop having those liquid Lunches . I hate it when I can not see straight.

[Dave S.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Dave, You'll have to stop having those liquid Lunches . I hate it when I can not see straight.

Diet coke.........I didn,t realize it was that strong. Maybe it was the Lime. I better check again.

[Marc B.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Good info posted but I find it's still confusing...

Dave, your car (July built) is a 1971 model ? So the front location for the stencil was used late in the 1971 production ?

Is there any recorded early 1972 car with the stencil in the rear location (below passenger door) ? JM stating it changed location during production but if the early cars had it up front when did it changed & what's the basis of this ?

Paul, there was no traces of the original stencil as the framed already had been repainted once (perhaps more) by previous owners...

[Dave S.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Good info posted but I find it's still confusing...

Dave, your car (July built) is a 1971 model ? So the front location for the stencil was used late in the 1971 production ?

Is there any recorded early 1972 car with the stencil in the rear location (below passenger door) ? JM stating it changed location during production but if the early cars had it up front when did it changed & what's the basis of this ?

Paul, there was no traces of the original stencil as the framed already had been repainted once (perhaps more) by previous owners...

Mar
I addition to the two frame stencils there is a crayon marking "1972" on the frame rail. This car is the last week of 1971 production.

[Paul O.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Marc

Your confused because at this time we are also and do not have a definitive answer to your question. Also to add fuel to this fire would the stencil color be white or yellow? At a change over from old year to new year Employees could also have made errors in the location of the stencil and or color you know habit. My feeling would be that the location would be behind the front wheel but as always we need more input as to many other cars built around this time frame. Then there's that color question.

[Bill C.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

my april 14 72 built car had it in the frame rail bend behind the pass wheel.

[Paul O.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Update have just received an email from a 1972 owner build date 8/23/1971 stencil was located on the frame close to the rear of the passengers door. Have asked if can tell what color the stencil is will update when that info is available.

We need more early 72 owners to add information on this. Thank You

Just got the color update it is white.

[Dave S.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

Update have just received an email from a 1972 owner build date 8/23/1971 stencil was located on the frame close to the rear of the passengers door. Have asked if can tell what color the stencil is will update when that info is available.

We need more early 72 owners to add information on this. Thank You

Just got the color update it is white.

Paul,
Seems to me that the front stencil started in late 71. Not sure if randomly changed from front to center but we know the practice started in late 71.

[Marc B.]

Re: Early 1972 Frame Stencil location ?

I have decided to go with the front stencil location in reference to the info posted that it was moved up front late in the 1971 production. White paint applied with a roller...